or you know, you guys could actually focus on the proper tourney, especially if there are out of state players who will there who dont want to stay back till 9pm because people were fucking around with jiggs ganon shit, since those out of state players might have to drive back home that night.
you haven't heard what I think because I honestly have no idea
I'm fine with killing deez, but didnt someone say we should wait with our voting until we've analyzed everything thats happened and want to move forward, do we all feel like we've reached that point yet?
Atyeo said: why? Dont you guys understand yet that if you just say shit like this to back up another player without any given reasoning, all you are doing is making yourself look suspicious.
Im blaming my deez vote on not having updated the thread but I still say vote deez cause hes doing nothing for us
dude, I quoted you on this
Maribro said: I'm pretty confident in calling JLo a townie at this point too…
your whole thing about just deciding jlo is a townie without saying why (which is possibly a mafia defending another mafia to try and get heat off him since people have been voting jlo sporadically) And when I question you about it (which I think with my quoting you made it clear I was talking about jlo) you instead respond with some shit about deez. We all know why we should kill deez, if I question you about something and you answer a completely different question, its just gonna make you look even more suspicious. cmon man reading isn't hard.
Aerodrome said: But Luke I'm 100% sure you're a townie too :<
where did that come from? oh right I get it, you are saying that because he thinks jlo is 100% town you think I am 100% town too
Maribro said: Voting against his own tracker is a poor move. If the mafia want to consistently remove power roles from the game then they need their tracker. It'd be a risky play so that aero can remain largely anonymous but have very little leeway in killing relevant people.
sure it is, unless you know the group has already resolved to killing laggy, in which case you vote along with them so that you dont drawn attention to yourself. Afterall one of the first things that happened at the beginning of this day was people suggesting that anyone who didnt vote laggy is likely to be mafia.
Your thinking is way too linear dude you need to start thinking about all those branching possibilities and multiple layer plays.
Also I've given up arguing with you about your shit doctor play, there are so many reasons why its bad and you should just stop because it seems pretty obvious at this point that whoever the doctor is thinks its dumb and thus hasn't outed themselves (for a very good reason) also, if maribro is a mafia he could easily be reinforcing his 'doctor play' by constantly trying to bring up this fake doctor shit and how a fake doctor by the mafia is a bad idea and so the real doctor can safely just speak up, which could easily just be all bullshit to get the real doctor to speak up, and then there doesn't need to be a fake doctor because the mafia can just kill the real doctor.
OR he is a townie, and he thinks that just because he can one time only save a doctor tonight, that the doctor is safe, and a similar thing could happen, the real doctor comes out, and mafia lol to themselves, no fake shows up, they just kill someone else, maribro wastes his one time save, and then night 3 the mafia kill the doctor. like paz said, its a shit play. ^ if that doesn't convince you maribro that may god have mercy on your soul
also no cake he wasnt implying there are 2 town doctors, how did you come to that conclusion, he was ultimately saying that if 2 people are claiming to be a doctor, you have no idea which one is telling the truth
thats like saying 'oh that color is black' "no it isn't its white" 'yeah thats probably a better name for it' you said it'd be a good idea if it could work, now you are saying its the opposite of a good idea, are you trying to cover up a possible MISTAKE?
Also, if I am indeed correct and revealing the doctor is a terrible play, and IF maribro is a mafia and is fishing for a doctor kill, then that would make invisi a pretty likely mafia since he is completely backing up this crazy play.
Someone just seemingly jumping up out of nowhere to support another player is supposed to be a good indication of mafia from what little I read on how to play mafia.
basing your plan on the logic 'there's no wake a fake doctor would come forward because he'd just die' doesn't make any sense, how would he 'just die' and your other grand idea 'if a fake doctor spoke up the real doctor could come forth and we'd know that the fake was a fake' doesn't really work either, lets say 2 people claim to be the doctor, how are you going to know which one is the fake genius?
And on that note, invisi, explain to me how a doctor revealing himself and then getting killed would give us any information on who killed the doctor, or just any info on who is a mafia in general? How would we trade a power role for a mafia?
I think you guys are tunnel visioning way too much, you are making plans on super rocky foundations without seeming to realizing how not safe those foundations are. There are any number of ways these plans could go, not just the way you assume they'll go.
Also, this thought came to me and I dont really think we should chase it right now, but IF aero is a mafia and his way of making sure no one suspects him is to just constantly flatter the players who are doing things and by being really friendly and supportive and saying things like 'I'm glad we listened to Atyeo' Then I want it on record that if this is indeed true, its a fucking genius play.
Atyeo said: ok, FIRST THING the doctor SHOULD NOT reveal themselves, that would be a fucking stupid idea, first of all we have no way of proving that whoever says they are the doctor is actually the doctor, and second it'll just get him killed. We DO NOT WANT the mafia to know who the power roles are, thats a really bad idea. Go back and read over the last few pages, anyone pressuring the doctor to reveal himself, trying really hard to get it to happen should INSTANTLY be on everyones suspicion radar because the doctor revealing himself would be a really good thing to happen for the mafia's side.
The only way we wouldn't know if the real doctor revealed themselves is if a mafia impersonated the doc. At this point, if the doctor has any common sense he would reveal himself. We lynch one of the doctors and if we guess wrong, I kill the imposter at night. The mafia would be 2 men down and in a bad spot but we'd have some idea of who the remaining scum are due to partnerships becoming clear from early game.
The main reason I want the doctor to clear himself is that it reduces our overall margin of error for who we lynch and give us a better idea of who is in the actual mafia team. Largely, I just want to know if Invisi was saved last night or if he's the doctor, being able to strike him off my list of suspects would allow me to hone in on the mafia much more easily. I don't think it's as bad a play as you all seem to think it is tbh. Anyway, I implore that the Doc save me tonight as doing so will allow me to keep my saving power and my killing one. The person who was potentially lynched last night could just be a Villager so unless evidence points to the contrary, I'm probably a better target for your powers tonight than anyone else.
your post made me want to lynch myself either you are a really bad mafia, or you are overestimating your power role by a ridiculous amount, and are making me think you should die, and if you actually are a townie then you making me want to lynch you is not good. also way to completely ignore all the reasons why I said what you are suggesting is a horrible play.
Aerodrome said: Are you saying that Maribro is potentially scum?
yes, we are all potentially scum
also for fucks sake can people please stop lynching themselves you guys are so dumb lol, if you are a town then you know you are good and so if you want to not be shit, you should be doing everything you can to make sure you dont get lynched.
we cant guarantee we can figure anything out because we have no way of knowing if someone is telling the truth when they reveal they are the doctor, you would be using that knowledge as a point of reference to figure other shit out, but if that point of reference was a lie you're gonna go down shitstreet.
Unless I've missed something big, right now the mafia shouldn't have any idea who the doctor is, and we want it to stay that way. What your suggesting is too big of a risk without any real reward.
As for your other question about how wants a no lynch, go back and read for yourself I'm not going to do your reading for you.
ok, FIRST THING the doctor SHOULD NOT reveal themselves, that would be a fucking stupid idea, first of all we have no way of proving that whoever says they are the doctor is actually the doctor, and second it'll just get him killed. We DO NOT WANT the mafia to know who the power roles are, thats a really bad idea. Go back and read over the last few pages, anyone pressuring the doctor to reveal himself, trying really hard to get it to happen should INSTANTLY be on everyones suspicion radar because the doctor revealing himself would be a really good thing to happen for the mafia's side.
Secondly we've already talked about why a no-lynch is bad, the only way the town can win the game is through lynching, a no lynch is just fucking dumb and any 'we should be careful while we are ahead' argument is a very poor one.
tl:dr, anyone trying to get the doctor to reveal himself, and anyone trying to get people to no lynch (both really bad plays for the town side), should be on your radars as suspicious and we should start putting them under pressure.
Aerodrome said:I'm so glad we listened to Atyeo to lynch day 1. And Pazx too for starting the vote. With you guys the town is assured victory! ✌
Aerodrome said: Atyeo, Invisi, Pazx are prime night kill candidates imo. They're the smartest players here by far.
This is my third ever game of mafia and last time I played was like 2009, dont put too much faith in me to carry the game. also obligatory get rekt laggy post.
Fucking dean, I'm sure he saw the pre-game 'lets kill laggy' banter and made him a mafia because of that, never misses a chance for a good chuckle.