yeah, I've played games similar to this and a change in behavior and attitude is usually indicative of being a bad guy, however, since we all gave him shit for being a shit poster just before the game started, he might have taken the hint that we'd kill him just for being himself and decided to try lay low, doesn't nessacarily mean he is a mafia. We could just vote him anyway though rofl.
Also urisk I dont think stating super obvious stuff puts you in a 'position of knowledge', if I were a mafia I dont think I'd feel like you have to die early. If I were a mafia I'd probably try and kill the most important player from last game, invisi. I'm sure someone like PAZX will try and grief me for pointing this out because he'll think giving advice to the mafia is bad, but the mafia would have to be pretty fucking dumb to not have already had that idea so I dont think pointing it out helps the mafia at all, it does help the townies though because we now know who to PROTECT.
SO, if there is a doctor in this game, since you really have nothing else to go on anyway, you should try and save invisi tonight and all nights unless a better play comes up. Invisi hasn't been leading the discussion like last game though, which means there is a possibility he might be a mafia.
If you want to go by that logic than there are only more because there are more players, the % of players that are special should have stayed the same and thus there isn't 'more' special players than the last game and so 'we all have a lot of special roles' is something I would consider reaching.
Anyways we can argue this for another 2 pages, or we can all just agree to not make assumptions or jump to any crazy conclusions. damn its a pity deezVIC and deezQLD arent both in the game, dean would totally have made then lovers, he's not one to miss an opportunity like that
Pazx said:there is only one way maribro could possibly know what he was implying, so i believe bringing attention to him was a poor move on your behalf. i guess i'm doing the same now, but if i ignored your post it would seem very scummy, so you put me in a difficult position.
Think about what you are saying, you are saying that if he has a special role, that he gets to know all the other (and how many) special roles there are in the game, do you really think he would have been given that knowledge? Even if I'm wrong and he was given that knowledge, thats not the only way he could know, its also very possible that he simply made an assumption, which I think is the more likely of the two, and then other idiots are gonna read his assumption and think that its true and then we are working off of false information, we dont want to be doing that, so no, I dont think my pointing out him being stupid and telling everyone not to make assumptions is something you should be shunning.
Trying to make sure people arent making mistakes is not bringing anything to light, I really dont think that you could assume from what he said that he has a special role.
So I did some quick googling about the no lynch play on day 1
"If the game starts with an odd number of players, no lynching takes away one of the town's mislynches prior to the scum getting the endgame win.
In a 9 player game with 2 scum, you lose upon mislynching for a third time. If you no lynch, you can only mislynch once. (And will lose upon the second mislynch.)
Getting more town controlled kills on the scum is going to give you a much better chance of winning than getting less. (You can probably even point to a higher scum win % on the relevant site.)
Let's take your classic newbie setup, as an example. 7 town 2 scum
Let's say that the town decide to NL D1, but lynch every day from then, and scum also kills every night. Day 2: 6 town, 2 scum. (25% chance of hitting scum) Day 3: 4 town, 2 scum. (33% chance of hitting scum)
Now let's say town lynch D1: D2: 5 town, 2 scum. (28.5% chance of hitting scum) Day 3: 3 town, 2 scum. (40% chance of hitting scum)
As you can see, the town have a greater chance of hitting scum if they lynch anyone D1. There's some rule about that, it's in the wiki somewhere. This is just from a statistical PoV, but lynching D1 is almost always better."
sounds like a shit play, lets definitely not go with the no lynch day 1 play
JLo said: And I'm not questioning Invisi's play during that game, seeing as how you're quite defensive about it, but what happens when the day phase is prolonged to the point when Town gets complacent.
I dont know what happens, but it didnt happen, being careful and working your way through a problem is not being complacent, and the game sure as hell didnt drag on at all like you are trying to tell me it did.
LEF said: I feel like the days being over 1 real world week, can potentially hurt the game cause we will get bored and potentially loose interest as day 1 we don't have much Intel.
This was my main issue last game. Town could have won days earlier but Invisi insisted on collecting more information, when the obvious play was right there all along. It got to the point that everyone grew complacent and we ended up winning anyways.
I read through the last game, you were all sitting around with your thumbs up your asses and invisi was the only one with a clue and handed the town the win, if he wasnt in the game you guys would have totally lost rofl.
Maribro said:Not that I think lynching someone this early is good because we all have a lot of special roles for the townies
how do you know that we have a lot of special roles for townies? There is no possible way you could know that.
PSA: please keep the level of assumptions and jumping to conclusions to a minimum.
Also its probably worth mentioning that if anyone makes a vote backed up with obviously shitty logic, and then someone else agree's with that logic and backs them up, that second person is probably a mafia. Pretty sure this has already happened this game, eyes open team. also at the risk of making an assumption after I said dont make assumptions, the previous mafia game had 10 people with 2 mafia, 20%. since there are 16 people this time, 3 or 4 mafia would follow that pattern, since we really have no way of knowing we should follow this number as a guideline, but dont rule out the possibility of more mafia.
? You cant jump out of shine in this game hax confirmed oh yeah, sideB to uair is a true kill combo in the right situations damn son I see you still have your smash brains, that uair read on the first stock was sik