hey guys! i know it looks pretty bad for me right now, but i have a pretty good explanation for all of this.
first off, i should probably start out with my role. i am in fact the Vanilla Cop, but with a twist. i noticed my result after day 2 was kinda funky, and last night's result not matching up either made me realize that i am in fact an Insane Vanilla Cop, where people with roles show up as vanilla and vice-versa! curse that tricky invisi for throwing me off the scent of the mafia!
now you may be asking, 'how can you possibly be town when boozer's sensor results show otherwise?' there's a simple answer to that, and by simple i mean very very complicated - a mafia framer!
clearly, after boozer revealed, the mafia framer opted to frame boozer's sensor results for their night 2 action. now what effect would this have on the sensor results, and what were his actual results? that's a question for another day!
even with all this said, laggy has still apparently come out as the final dark mafia member. remember when invisi said there were gonna be some homebrewed roles? well hooo boy, this one's a doozy, strap yourself in! it's clear to me that the mafia framer has a nefarious ability i'd like to call the Day Frame - they've forced laggy to admit he is the final dark member when he is in fact nothing but an innocent vanilla townie. shameful. this is made even more clear by his next post being some kind of strange shitpost - personally, i interpret it as a cry for help more than anything.
so you might be wondering - extra, who does this mean the final mafia members are? like all good mafia players, i think i'll answer that question with a question - what's more important, killing the actual mafia members or killing dean? i think we both know the answer to that one.
so this may, vote 1 extra, the Insane Vanilla Cop who saved you all, and vote 2 dean, and then kill him. thank you for listening vote: extra
ok patch notes and joker just came out so i know i gotta make a post now otherwise ill completely forget about this
for now im gonna unvote asa. i still think his actions are kinda inherently suspicious but i can at least understand his justifications for them.
laggy's fuckups are completely ridiculous so i went back to the ssbu mafia game to see if they're on par with his previous game and... i think it's probably possible that he's just messing up. i do kinda think his misinterpretation of both innocent child and confusing jonchee/asa (?????) in such a short period of time is at least concerning.
for now im gonna throw my vote back on boozer who aside from mr L has probably contributed the least during this day and has pretty blatantly been lurking - gonna quote a bit of what i wrote down about him in my longer post a little while ago that didnt sit right - i went back and checked and i dont think the ausmash mafia discord got pinged when the final vote on the jeans lynch train happened?
also voted for jeans for essentially no reason, didnt post anything for 2 days but was suddenly there making a quip right when jeans got lynched. bad vibes.
basically my thoughts on asa are yeah i can empathize with thinking jeans was mafia because i thought the same due to trying to metagame and came out looking kinda like a dumbass. but in day 2 it still feels like he's been going pretty hard on bijou which i kinda don't get? dont really see bijou as too suspicious, and feel like there's a lot of other players to talk about but asa seems pretty tunnel visioned on bijou / how ppl interact with bijou. i reckon ive barely seen him voice any sort of opinion on like, 3/4 of the game's players.
as such i'm keeping my vote on him for now. my second choice would be boozer then.. i guess aero? not convinced hes maf, the way he defends himself drives me up the wall though. would take a bit more for me to vote him over boozer.
asa has been not very forthcoming with information and keeps on sorta subtly implying that he still thinks bijou is mafia? and then with bijou's weird "say you're wrong asa" thing going on... i think if you're properly sus of asa, bijou, then getting him to say 'yeah i was wrong about jeans' shouldnt really exonerate him? i am very inclined to put a vote on him right now but if you're gonna jump off if he says he's wrong then that kinda makes me feel like my pressure would be useless
putting that aside yeah i feel asa is more inclined to keep his cards close to his chest than share with town. not a big fan of that. also super inactive but was at eg so i cant judge
boozer: i still dont like any of his posts. maybe its the nature of the game but i feel like his post quality has deteriorated this day 2. have a look through and see if you agree with me https://ausmash.com.au/user/boozer
he sussed maribro repeatedly throughout the day but only put a vote on him after what i see as pretty much a meme vote from the man in question. his most recent post he also asks a question and then answers it in the same post, and also kinda fishes for info by saying 'what if theres a town killing role tho'. idk everything he posts just feels like fluff. also voted for jeans for essentially no reason, didnt post anything for 2 days but was suddenly there making a quip right when jeans got lynched. bad vibes.
i still think blaze is probably fine. give us ur gut feeling on stuff blaze. better than nothing, go with ur instincts as at least that sparks discussion
windkeeper also sorta bad vibes, he said he was gonna post a list of thoughts then his next post only mentioned blaze. he wasn't away at anything either so no real excuses. seems pretty aimless now that jeans is dead. was that your only read?
aero: his post a couple pages ago in response to dean got me thinkin
I don't agree with your post on page 16. You're looking way too hard on the day 1 lynch. Ok so there was lots of mafia on the train in the grand total of ONE game we had multiple factions in. What are the chances that is purely coincidental?
i think its probably not coincidental if you think abt how anti-town would approach the game. all they know is that one of their members is not being targeted, and its possible that the person under fire is maf. if both sides are thinking something along those lines i think it's likely that there'd be a bit of bandwagoning. probably less about coincidences and more a case of history repeating itself?
battledolphin: if hes mafia then ive hella misread him. i think probably town? looking back on his interactions regarding the day 1 lynch i feel like he approached it with an appropriate level of caution. day 2 hes just kinda been there (no offense) would like to hear others opinions on him. also his jiggs is free
im still very tired and also typed up another long thing today (follow @DS_Extra on twitter!!!!) so i think ill leave it at that and try to do a part 2 tomorrow morning? everyones been so reserved hopefully this game starts bein more active
im finally back sorry guys!!! i know its really shitty to do an activity post right away but i dont have the energy to do anything besides fall asleep so ill make a proper post tomorrow.
im going to gong, ghost is going to supernova nintendo thing same weekend, i think mr L is going to gong as well
i havent been able to get on the site all day up until now and im not 100% sure my post will go through. if asa legit cant really post til tuesday (i know typing on phone is annoying but it's still possible and probably necessary for the health of the game) then im not sure how to proceed.
i am having a lazy morning and so in the spirit of that lazy morning im just gonna copy paste the stuff i had down in my word doc that i didnt get to post before day 1 ended thanks to a certain monsieur L
these are mostly just not fleshed out thoughts to give ppl an idea of what im thinking, with some annotations added where certain stuff happened (i havent really updated it since day 1 cos ive been busy).
SUS PLAYERS: LtLongshot – super sus 'analysis' post after being voted for – 'its fine if you think im maf' – literally scummiest person on the planet – push day 2?? update: still sus but hes been more active recently which i think is a better sign towards him potentially not being scum. but yes i hate longshot this game fight me
Boozer – playing under the radar not necessarily doing anything wrong but get similar vibes as to when he was third party in ulti mafia.
Asa – weird ass roleclaim early not necessarily suspicious but played super far back and took a long time to make posts afterwards – was apparently just 'busy'. Still swinging hard at jeans and fighting with bijou a lot - wasn't really defended much by anyone
Jeans – lots of small slipups, not 100% convinced yet – being called out by everyone = bad sign but might be because of difficult to defend mistakes. Votes on him = JEANS (7): Asa, Boozer, Aerodrome, Maribro, Ghost, Windkeeper, JonCheee – would mafia go after own members when there's two different teams?? seems unlikely on day 1 update: was obviously town. not too cut that i misread this one, granted he was a powerful role, but there was still only 1 night death last night????
Aerodrome – the usual, can't sleep on him though – he knows that everyone expects him to play like this and so can get away with a lot more. Voted for like 5 different people, lots of ppl have been antagonistic towards him too but it's not above maf to stage stuff
Mr L – been very passive + soft claimed - “my role is more useful later on in the game don't lynch me” - everyones role is more useful later in the game dumb ass update: is town lol
Blaze – has been pretty useless – maybe lurking mafia but get the feeling he would be trying harder – could be told by his team to not talk much. Might b a good role and quiet bc of that
Dean – smart player – feels different from game when he was maf. Doesnt let up on pressure, keeps attacking – could just be trying to scumhunt so aggressively because he's on scum side. Keep an eye on
Bijou – very active – very openly defending a lot of people – seems too risky for him to be outwardly maf – staunch maribro, jeans defender – was on the asa train but eventually unvoted, doesnt seem to be aggro on anyone else. Thinks longshot is town??? Revise after first lynch update: leaning towards town
Laggy – been quiet – can't tell if not very helpful town or scum – could be sleeper pick
Windkeeper – doesnt talk when mason dean pointed out he's focused on jeans hard – good pick up on the 'thought light was town' tho – doesn't necessarily exonerate him. revise after first lynch
Maribro – been on the defensive for like the whole game, says that he's playing differently – bijou trusts him, dean doesn't – probably more inclined to believe he's townie but kinda strange that bijou stepped in to defend him so hard??? – go through and analyze interactions between him and dean zzzzzzzzfdsfdssdfsdf update: still havent gone over it bc fuck that conversation, i appreciate the most recent post he made tho
need to go over: ghost jonchee bd update: ghost was maf
LtLongshot said: Extra gonna be sus of me for the rest of this game :(
Extra said: i planned to vote for mr L (will explain reasoning when home) but deans post re: jeans makes some sense to me; gonna wait for jeans to reply to it before going hard on the lynch train though.
If anything can you explain why you want to vote for Mr L
oh yeah shit whoops i completely forgot about that
hes posted very infrequently with multiple posts basically just being glorified activity posts and the one time he was pressured he deflected with some sort of soft claim where he said 'i may have more to offer later in the game than at present' in lieu of actually contributing anything. his votes also seem pretty bandwagony. all in all he may just be bad town but i really dont like his soft claim, though reading it again he might have been talking more about his playstyle than his role?? regardless i dont like it.
compare to ultimate mafia where i remember day 1 he made a handful of pretty good posts early on. not sure what's different this game. https://ausmash.com.au/user/mrl?page=2 sleep tight inviser
ok so the thing with jeans claim is that i was really willing to give him a chance as i know how annoying it can be to have to deal w people nitpicking ur posts especially when some of em are more trolly in nature. but tbh i think the fact that out of all possible claims he's claiming doctor makes it really hard for me to trust him
i been reading a lot of mafiawiki bc i want to maybe not suck in this game and i remember reading a page a few days ago that talked about how doctor is a really common claim by anti town because 1) it's really bad for the real doctor to come out and challenge the claim as it's such a powerful role, and 2) it's really hard to push the lynch any further bc then you look scummy for 'voting for doctor'.
and yeah cos of this i kinda agree with ghost that out of all the people playing this game, the one we found to be the most inconsistent and have the most discrepancies in his posts turns out to be town doctor? just feels so weird. would someone with as strong a role as doctor play like JEANS did?
while its nice to have some backup on longshot finally (thx maribro) i feel like i gotta go w my gut and put jeans back on l-1 bc everything about this feels so off
but yeah im not a fan of waiting much longer cos lets say he does claim like tomorrow and it looks trustworthy, we then have like a bit over 24 hrs to decide who we go after next? and what if that person roleclaims as well??? id rather not rush but id also rather not have a no lynch day 1 so
lmao the timeline of aero voting for mr L -> sleep (presumably) -> wake up and change vote to jeans is hilarious to me. don’t even think it’s sus but it’s like the peak of aero plays
i planned to vote for mr L (will explain reasoning when home) but deans post re: jeans makes some sense to me; gonna wait for jeans to reply to it before going hard on the lynch train though.
ive been out all day and im very tired and dont really know how to respond to all the activity thats been happening right now, sorry.
no one seems to really care about the people ive been sus of (all the big hitters are infighting so w/e) so i'll say one more thing about longshot then leave it alone.
LtLongshot said: I mostly wanted to wait a bit longer for other bandwagons to go off before i got more evidence before I came out with this post. But thats fair if you are sus of me with the lack of posting/agro.
i think his reasoning for not voting isn't great but not hugely suspicious but the second half of this is something i do all the time in irl mafia when i'm scum; basically acknowledging someone's suspicions as reasonable as a 'defense' and then trying to move on/deflect. so this response made me even more sus of longshot LOL. granted this may be only a scumtell for me specifically.
but whatever seems like nobody but me is interested in this so i'll probs just bandwagon at some point tbhhhhhh
LtLongshot said: It looks like Extra is just trying to start random votes to prod but no one is joining or ganging up with him which makes me lean towards town for him.
my votes are not random! thats very rude to presume : (
i voted for you because i found this suspicious:
LtLongshot said: *activity posts in japanese*
I've been keeping up just thought there wasn't much to add from my end.
"i've been lurking but dont want to contribute" reads to me (especially since there was clearly a lot that happened between your last post and your activity post, notably substantial posts from asa, bijou, dean, jeans and maribro) that you'd rather not give things away unprompted which i consider to be pretty anti-town.
now, once prompted you gave your thoughts which is great, but the main things that stuck out to me are 1) this was your most substantial post by far in this game, and 2) it was overall pretty aggro instead of a more reserved post like we might've expected from someone who felt 'there wasn't much to add from my end'.
So now I'm really interested in those that have been starting bandwagons and the people who support them quickly.
if you were really interested in this, why'd it take prompting from both my vote and maribro in order for you to express it?
maybe i'm reading too much into this but ima keep my vote on you bc imo those two posts in conjunction with each other are the most sus things to happen so far. ranbat today btw so don’t expect too much activity from vic (and ghost)
asa kind of blueballed us with 'part 2 tbd', i'm definitely more sus of him but want to reserve judgment until it's out.
dean's pressure on maribro is pretty interesting. personally speaking, windkeeper does my head in (even when i was masons with the guy i couldn't get much out of him LOL) so for someone to have a 'town lean' on him so early does strike me as a bit off. having said that, i couldn't see anything really wrong with what wind has said so far after going back and examining his post history.