Lucario character discussion

Aerodrome I'm almost certain you played Bin when you were down here for BAM and came down for S@S.

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07/20/2015 15:01:16

Solid mid-tier character. Has strings & Aura™, but suffers in frame data and mobility.

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07/21/2015 11:57:55

I liked how you trademarked the aura aha

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07/25/2015 08:38:22

Pudge said:
Aerodrome I'm almost certain you played Bin when you were down here for BAM and came down for S@S.

Who? What?

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07/25/2015 09:16:28

Pudge, can you please not bring up Aero and Bam at the same time in this Lucario discussion thread, please and thank you. Btw, I'm saying this now. I am the Major of Poke stadium and Leader of the Pokemon League in smash 4 ;)

Sorry Karnu

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07/28/2015 08:04:02

Deez said:
Pudge, can you please not bring up Aero and Bam at the same time in this Lucario discussion thread, please and thank you.

Btw, I'm saying this now. I am the Major of Poke stadium and Leader of the Pokemon League in smash 4 ;)

Sorry Karnu

What are you even on about?

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07/30/2015 08:22:05

^ lol

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07/30/2015 08:29:28

lol

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07/30/2015 08:30:51

lol

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07/30/2015 10:08:41

lol

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07/30/2015 10:50:05

Let's just say that this week has not been a good week for me :/ (even though like 2 good things happened)

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07/30/2015 23:32:41

What, those 2 games you beat me in ?

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08/06/2015 09:43:23

Nah, not that.

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08/06/2015 09:52:42

This is why Nair is your best option out of Uthrow at low %

http://gfycat.com/MadReadyKatydid

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10/06/2015 01:51:56

Or double jump and better DI perhaps?

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10/06/2015 02:24:48

JLo said:
Or double jump and better DI perhaps?

Its a true Uair to Nair. Its been told its better early game even on SB.

Nair has a weird Hitbox that drags you down and creates a reset .

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10/06/2015 02:55:16

dunno much about lucario but this looks like one of those multihit spike things, except it doesnt really spike so you dont have a tech window... but the sheik did manage to shield on the ground, so its a mixup (if the sheik were fast I'm sure they coulda grabbed lucario first. the second one might have true combo'd to dtilt though... sdi and vectoring might help you escape it though

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10/06/2015 03:43:17

Atyeo said:
dunno much about lucario but this looks like one of those multihit spike things, except it doesnt really spike so you dont have a tech window... but the sheik did manage to shield on the ground, so its a mixup (if the sheik were fast I'm sure they coulda grabbed lucario first. the second one might have true combo'd to dtilt though... sdi and vectoring might help you escape it though

Yeah it isn't a spike but it drags you down. I didn't FF sooner which allowed sheik to sheild. The idea is to do something like a tilt when they are in a landing animation before you re grab. I don't think any of that really helps at such low %. I've never really had an issue pulling this sort of stuff off ever (unless its a floaty character, they get out of it at any%)

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10/06/2015 04:44:16

Yes, this only works on the heavier side of the cast. The grab reset isn't guaranteed - characters with fast jabs can just jab to stop the second grab, eg Captain Falcon. D-tilt isn't guaranteed by any means, only coming out on frame 9.

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10/06/2015 10:34:00

I feel like its better if you do the thing I do. I gets the opponent off stage, free aura sphere charge or potential shield break. Idk, open to criticism I guess

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10/06/2015 10:54:00

Deez said:
I feel like its better if you do the thing I do. I gets the opponent off stage, free aura sphere charge or potential shield break. Idk, open to criticism I guess

You're better off abusing your low knockback first. More efficient and faster method of building %. Always should leave off stage stuff till later

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10/06/2015 11:16:11

It's character and DI dependent as well. As said before, u-throw to nair doesn't work on floaties, and neither does it work against characters with fast nairs, eg Luigi, Yoshi etc. Fair is better in these situations. Nair doesn't work if the opponent DIs in, and is hard to get if they DI up, both situations where u-air works. Also, if we're comparing grab combos...

http://gfycat.com/OrganicOddChick

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10/06/2015 13:32:45

^ that was a nice read, but it wasnt a combo, ness could have gotten out at a few points.

the thing karnu posted looks like in very specific scenarios, it could deffs be a true combo

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10/06/2015 14:29:54

There's not enough hitstun on the nair, sheik can actually just nair herself before she lands and punish luc's nair on hit.

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10/06/2015 15:04:10

Though as much. You can even jump out I think

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10/07/2015 02:43:38