Invisi telling us what he got is pointless because town can't verify it and if it was something good it could make him a mafia target.
What are you hoping to gain by learning what power Invisi got?
02/04/2017 10:29:53
ye im calling it bd is mafia
Vote:BattleDolphin
02/04/2017 10:42:51
Vote:BattleDolphin
02/04/2017 10:42:51
Yeah I'm down for that actually.
Vote: BattleDolphin
02/04/2017 10:57:34
Vote: BattleDolphin
02/04/2017 10:57:34
I think Invisi not revealing his power is only hampering town honestly, if he even did get one. Again we still have no way of knowing if he is or isn't mafia-aligned or if he's used/still got his power.
Regardless, there's not much we can do.
Would be helpful if cjeccjec and Hydro actually contributed something useful to the game.
VOTE: cjeccjec Also Aerodrome hasn't contributed an awful lot beyond going on mafiawiki and clarifying what roles do, :thinking: :eyes:
02/04/2017 12:35:42
Regardless, there's not much we can do.
Would be helpful if cjeccjec and Hydro actually contributed something useful to the game.
VOTE: cjeccjec Also Aerodrome hasn't contributed an awful lot beyond going on mafiawiki and clarifying what roles do, :thinking: :eyes:
02/04/2017 12:35:42
unsure why people are going for battledolphin when cjeccjec made the more suspicious post (in my eyes) right before him. hunches?
jlo can you elaborate more on how you think mrL's death was related to invisi. does this mean you suspect him?
leaning more towards trusting invisi now that he didn't reveal his power (imo the mafia play would be to try for another mislynch off an 'investigation' then try to play it off as framer later; he's already mentioned the role multiple times which made me think it'd be his fallback if he tried something ballsy) and suspecting people who want him to reveal what power he got. very easy way for mafia to determine how much of a threat he is while still appearing pro-town.
02/04/2017 12:46:10
jlo can you elaborate more on how you think mrL's death was related to invisi. does this mean you suspect him?
leaning more towards trusting invisi now that he didn't reveal his power (imo the mafia play would be to try for another mislynch off an 'investigation' then try to play it off as framer later; he's already mentioned the role multiple times which made me think it'd be his fallback if he tried something ballsy) and suspecting people who want him to reveal what power he got. very easy way for mafia to determine how much of a threat he is while still appearing pro-town.
02/04/2017 12:46:10
It's just conjecture at this point, but I think it's no coincidence that MrL was picked off night 1 for the second game in a row, while having a Watcher role. My hypothesis is that Invisi has some sort of role modifier that kills anyone who targets him with a power role, and MrL targeted him last night. I mentioned yesterday that Invisi's play seems like he wants power roles to target him during the following night phase, and MrL played right into that. Of course, this hypothesis falls apart because of a lack of a second night kill last night, unless Mafia held off on a kill last night.
Now that I wrote all of that down, it seems unnecessarily complicated and Occam's Razor is telling me I;m just waffling at this point
02/04/2017 13:11:14
Now that I wrote all of that down, it seems unnecessarily complicated and Occam's Razor is telling me I;m just waffling at this point
02/04/2017 13:11:14
Ffs...
Alright, so we won the last Mafia game because of luck and power roles. But it wasn't only because of this, it was also because we confirmed a lot of townies
If we get invisi to reveal his power now then we can confirm him easier than if we wait for him to use his action. That way we know he isn't just choosing the role that is easiest to fake when the time comes. It also gives us at least something for today.
Also invisi said himself he wouldn't mind if he gets night killed as he thinks his role isn't that strong.
Btw I only targetted Battledolphin to get the ball rolling, we kinda have a day 1 situation going with not much to go off. At this point I have no real opinion of BD.
02/04/2017 16:33:57
Alright, so we won the last Mafia game because of luck and power roles. But it wasn't only because of this, it was also because we confirmed a lot of townies
If we get invisi to reveal his power now then we can confirm him easier than if we wait for him to use his action. That way we know he isn't just choosing the role that is easiest to fake when the time comes. It also gives us at least something for today.
Also invisi said himself he wouldn't mind if he gets night killed as he thinks his role isn't that strong.
Btw I only targetted Battledolphin to get the ball rolling, we kinda have a day 1 situation going with not much to go off. At this point I have no real opinion of BD.
02/04/2017 16:33:57
If Invisi can't confirm the role he got it means that it's either kill or protect one-shot because why wouldn't you use an investigate as you get it, it would confirm someone to be town or anti-town and day 2 could progress easier.
Unless he is lying about the whole situation and playing everyone, still not totally sure about him being a bookie as of yet.
Letting mafia know which one-shot you get without being able to prove it to town is probably not the best idea since there is no reliable way for town to trust him in this situation until the power is used and a result is shown.
A bit off topic, but looking through posts Aero hasn't contributed particularly much other than trying to lead town to kill people, it'd be a bit ironic if he was mafia for like the 50th time in a row but anyways since this is like how he played in the game he was SK where he tries to lead people to their deaths or w/e I'm going to vote for him.
Vote:Aerodrome
I'll place a vote to pressure you to say some more meaningful things for now. <3
02/04/2017 16:58:57
Unless he is lying about the whole situation and playing everyone, still not totally sure about him being a bookie as of yet.
Letting mafia know which one-shot you get without being able to prove it to town is probably not the best idea since there is no reliable way for town to trust him in this situation until the power is used and a result is shown.
A bit off topic, but looking through posts Aero hasn't contributed particularly much other than trying to lead town to kill people, it'd be a bit ironic if he was mafia for like the 50th time in a row but anyways since this is like how he played in the game he was SK where he tries to lead people to their deaths or w/e I'm going to vote for him.
Vote:Aerodrome
I'll place a vote to pressure you to say some more meaningful things for now. <3
02/04/2017 16:58:57
Vote: cjeccjec
Let's go back to this.
02/04/2017 23:17:22
Let's go back to this.
02/04/2017 23:17:22
Aero, your last few posts have been votes with minimal reasoning as why you are voting for them.
Not good enough mate.
You seem way too desperate to lynch someone, my guess is that either you WANT to be lynched or you are playing absolutely terrible this game.
Vote: Aerodrome
02/05/2017 00:05:24
Aerodrome said:
Vote: cjeccjec
Let's go back to this.
Not good enough mate.
Aerodrome said:
Yeah I'm down for that actually.
Vote: BattleDolphin
You seem way too desperate to lynch someone, my guess is that either you WANT to be lynched or you are playing absolutely terrible this game.
Vote: Aerodrome
02/05/2017 00:05:24
You know what else was a vote with minimal reasoning?
My Laggy vote. LEAVE.
If I was mafia, you'd be dead already. 100%
There's probably 2 mafia in the group of cjeccjec, BattleDolphin and LuminousLucas. Calling it now.
02/05/2017 00:44:18
My Laggy vote. LEAVE.
If I was mafia, you'd be dead already. 100%
There's probably 2 mafia in the group of cjeccjec, BattleDolphin and LuminousLucas. Calling it now.
02/05/2017 00:44:18
The only way that we can be sure about Invisi's alignment is if he either kills a mafia member with a 1 shot kill or he finds a mafia member with an investigation. Knowing this it wouldn't make much sense to reveal which ability he got right now since it would help the mafia more.
I'm not sure about the BattleDolphin votes since the only thing I've seen him do that's seen as suspicious is voting for CJ after CJ voted for him.
Though out day 1 MrL was pretty strongly against Invisi.
I have no clue what to think of Aero right now because his posts have been pretty odd. I could understand it when he was trying to get rid of Laggy but now he seems to be acting similarly with other people.
02/05/2017 02:13:35
I'm not sure about the BattleDolphin votes since the only thing I've seen him do that's seen as suspicious is voting for CJ after CJ voted for him.
Though out day 1 MrL was pretty strongly against Invisi.
MrL said:Since MrL was also suspicious of Cj and it's possible that if Cj is mafia, he killed him to stop him from pushing any further further.
I do find CJ's and Invisi's change in voting pattern for this game interesting
I have no clue what to think of Aero right now because his posts have been pretty odd. I could understand it when he was trying to get rid of Laggy but now he seems to be acting similarly with other people.
02/05/2017 02:13:35
I pride myself in being unreadable.
02/05/2017 03:10:01
02/05/2017 03:10:01
Sorry for being inactive i got caught up with VCE homework and being busy yesterday.
I completely believe Invisi, to me he seems to be doing whatever he can to help out the town using what he has to help. I don't really agree with CJ in saying Invisi revealing his 1 shot power it just seems like more information to the mafia. I'll hold off from voting for now. Should reveal is 1 shot power*
02/05/2017 03:56:52
I completely believe Invisi, to me he seems to be doing whatever he can to help out the town using what he has to help. I don't really agree with CJ in saying Invisi revealing his 1 shot power it just seems like more information to the mafia. I'll hold off from voting for now. Should reveal is 1 shot power*
02/05/2017 03:56:52
Since Ben's statistics homework has been brought up again, looks like I'll say my piece. I like the idea of it and it's an alright place to start reading people.
Now about me voting fast, well I'm sick of laggy. Not only that but now that I've had two tries at this Mafia game I know what im supposed to do. So that's why I'm a lot more confident in what I say and in my opinions. I also don't like pissing around with "maybes" and "buts".
I was under the impression that we'd grill invisi at least a little bit and that he would be the center of today's discussion. but nooo... Let's dick around like aero and hydro. (Alright so it's only aero and hydro on that part...)
Err I stopped typing half way to deal with real life. I had more to say but I forgot. Probably a lead as to where I would like to go with the game but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
02/05/2017 07:39:02
Now about me voting fast, well I'm sick of laggy. Not only that but now that I've had two tries at this Mafia game I know what im supposed to do. So that's why I'm a lot more confident in what I say and in my opinions. I also don't like pissing around with "maybes" and "buts".
I was under the impression that we'd grill invisi at least a little bit and that he would be the center of today's discussion. but nooo... Let's dick around like aero and hydro. (Alright so it's only aero and hydro on that part...)
Err I stopped typing half way to deal with real life. I had more to say but I forgot. Probably a lead as to where I would like to go with the game but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
02/05/2017 07:39:02
Contribute something useful instead of just voting Aerodrome, "Oh lets be a bookie and guess who the mafia are" Leave. So far you've contributed as much as Laggy has in this game, and going from being talkative to so quiet makes me suspicious, hence,
VOTE: Aerodrome
02/05/2017 07:54:03
VOTE: Aerodrome
02/05/2017 07:54:03
Aerodrome said:
I pride myself in being unreadable.
If I'm not pro-town even when I'm town, they'll never know when I'm mafia!
02/05/2017 08:52:41
If you want my actual thoughts because of why I think BattleDolphin and cjeccjec are mafia is mainly because they were suspicious of Invisi for no real reason and unnecessarily trying to pressure him to reveal what power he received which is typical mafia behavior.
Personally, I'm happy to role reveal if this is necessary.
02/05/2017 11:38:48
Personally, I'm happy to role reveal if this is necessary.
02/05/2017 11:38:48
vote:cjeccjec
we dont gain anything from knowing what invisi power invisi gained. tagreting aero because he votes is a noob mistake, it's just his playstyle. invisi is town. the mr l kill was probably done for memes/to frame invisi.
02/06/2017 01:00:23
we dont gain anything from knowing what invisi power invisi gained. tagreting aero because he votes is a noob mistake, it's just his playstyle. invisi is town. the mr l kill was probably done for memes/to frame invisi.
02/06/2017 01:00:23
I'm not really sure what to make of BD and cjec, but I can kinda understand them asking me to reveal my reward 1-shot power. Not trusting me at this point is understandable, and they're wanting to pressure the guy they don't trust. However, as I and others have explained, revealing my reward power would actually be unhelpful to the town. I appreciate the effort in grilling me, but unfortunately I don't have any more useful information to disclose today.
Not exactly sure of the best way to proceed today. I'll point out that with my bet on Hydro he's a decent fallback plan, but so far he seems to be slightly more useful this game than previous ones, which is nice. If anyone has any reason more than a hard guess to lynch someone else, we should go with that. Oh, and to Aero - you are the only person who can accurately judge whether revealing your role will be helpful or unhelpful to the town. Keep that in mind.
02/06/2017 01:27:18
Not exactly sure of the best way to proceed today. I'll point out that with my bet on Hydro he's a decent fallback plan, but so far he seems to be slightly more useful this game than previous ones, which is nice. If anyone has any reason more than a hard guess to lynch someone else, we should go with that. Oh, and to Aero - you are the only person who can accurately judge whether revealing your role will be helpful or unhelpful to the town. Keep that in mind.
02/06/2017 01:27:18
hey dont
02/06/2017 01:27:41
02/06/2017 01:27:41
Does Aero normally play this carefree or does he have a power that is making him comfortable?
Innocent child maybe?
02/06/2017 02:32:02
Innocent child maybe?
02/06/2017 02:32:02
No I'm not innocent child, I'm pretty much the most carefree player in the world, understandably people think I'm mafia sometimes because of it.
I'm not really down to lynch Hydro because he hasn't done something stupid yet, hopefully he doesn't neighborize with mafia this game and then defend them to the death until they vote for him during lylo.
I'm getting the most mafia vibes from cjeccjec, followed by BattleDolphin, I would like to pressure cjeccjec first though. I think if cjeccjec flips mafia then BattleDolphin almost 100% will also be mafia based on the way they have interacted with each other this game.
02/06/2017 02:43:03
I'm not really down to lynch Hydro because he hasn't done something stupid yet, hopefully he doesn't neighborize with mafia this game and then defend them to the death until they vote for him during lylo.
I'm getting the most mafia vibes from cjeccjec, followed by BattleDolphin, I would like to pressure cjeccjec first though. I think if cjeccjec flips mafia then BattleDolphin almost 100% will also be mafia based on the way they have interacted with each other this game.
02/06/2017 02:43:03
What vibes are you getting exactly? Mainly that they wanted to know what Invisi's one shot that he gained was?
02/06/2017 02:52:59
02/06/2017 02:52:59
That and also this post seemed out of the blue:
Considering that BattleDolphin had posted on the same page as it was posted and various people hadn't posted at all made me think "?????".
Unnecessary information garnering is also something Mafia players do, since while they're the informed minority, they also want as much information on townsfolk to decide who to kill at night.
02/06/2017 03:02:52
cjeccjec said:
Vote: Battledolphin
Hi please say things.
Considering that BattleDolphin had posted on the same page as it was posted and various people hadn't posted at all made me think "?????".
Unnecessary information garnering is also something Mafia players do, since while they're the informed minority, they also want as much information on townsfolk to decide who to kill at night.
02/06/2017 03:02:52