World of Light themed Mafia - Game Over, Dark Faction Wins! page 13

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Mods (2):
- Invisi
- Rhyno

Substitutes (1):
- Exist

Dead (10):
- JEANS (Shulk), Doctor Spirit, lynched day 1
- Ghost (Marx), Dark Tracker/Watcher, killed night 1
- Aerodrome (Dharkon), Embodiment of Darkness, lynched day 2
- Bijou (Mario), Vanilla Spirit, killed night 2
- Maribro (Crazy Hand), Dark Puppet, killed day 3
- Extra (Master Hand), Light Puppet, lynched day 3
- Mr L (Kirby), Spirits' Last Hope, killed night 3
- LtLongshot (Marth), Vanilla Spirit, killed night 3
- Asa (Galeem), Lord of Light, lynched day 4
- Dean (Palutena), Watcher/Voyeur Spirit, killed night 4

Day 5 - Deadline 5/5/19 9pm AEST
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
JonCheee (3): Blaze, Boozer, BattleDolphin
Boozer (2): JonCheee, Windkeeper
Blaze (1): Laggy
Not Voted (6): Blaze, Boozer, Windkeeper, Laggy, JonCheee, BattleDolphin

Invisi 04/23/2019 23:53:24

dean

81+ tourneys

Wii U: dean7599

3DS: 1435-4425-6023

Windkeeper0 said:
Sorry I had to stop reading for my own sanity after I read JEANS last post so I didn't see you mentioned it Dean.

That's OK it wasn't really directed at you I was just annoyed Aero wasn't reading my posts. If you did come to the same conclusion as I did without reading my post then that would help consolidate our positions anyway.

I suppose this comes down to if we think that it's reasonable to think that:
We're told that we're a Spirit at the start of the game, and are told that Light and Dark can do something to obstruct us from using our power role, and then think that Light = Spirits from this information.

I think that I agree with Bijou that learning more information about your role would be beneficial for us. What is the "A" that Light and Dark can do to counteract your power? It sounds like you have information on both mafia factions but have withheld this information from town so far.

There's also asa's post on the last page that delved into why he thought that JEANS was suspicious even ignoring the whole Light = town thing...

Honestly at this stage I still think the JEANS lynch is the best play.

@Bijou yes I kept it short because I wanted more information + a few other reasons (a bit busy at work + I still wasn't at 100% health), I don't always want to write walls it just kind of happens sometimes.

03/27/2019 04:22:26

LtLongshot

74+ tourneys

Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039

Wii U: LtLongshot

I think its safe to say most people have been skimming over the last 10 pages of walls of texts ngl

Also I'm gonna wait until the next few jeans posts to decide. Windkeeper did kinda destroy him.

03/27/2019 04:51:22

JEANS

84+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496

dont really see how you can think windkeeper 'destroyed' me.
What i posted before lines up with my story i just posted? can we not act like he EXPOSED anything that I didnt already want you to know? otherwise i wouldnt have said it.

also people arguing for like 8 posts about who made the play and who planned it etc. , is annoying :rage:. could talk about relevant information over it.
do this play gloating in spectator chat once you die or after game chat or whatevers maybe? then also you have the plus advantage of not looking like an arse when you bragged about a play that ended up not even being correct.

to claiming role, I wanna see how more of town responds to what ive already said before I claim my role, that is assuming, nobody lynches me and actually gives me the chance. (lynch them after if they do this)

03/27/2019 05:56:55

ThatLaggyPerson

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Switch: SW-7156-6180-5821

Wii U: ThatLaggyPerson

JEANS said:
im spirit X character Y role. Then it says my role can do Z power but invisi explained it what it was in a flavour way so there was a bit of confusion exactly as to what I even was.
then there's like a line saying I cant use Z power if light or dark do 'A' to counteract Z.

so in my head I was like oh so i guess if town uses a roleblock on me or whatever then my power wont work. there was a town roleblock like 2 games ago so it was a reasonable assumption!
but i was still confused/wanted clarification so i asked invisi what exactly light/dark was and this is when I learn there's 2 mafia and light is one of them. I just assumed light=spirtis lol and light countering my power meant a townie did it since that could happen.

to me, this means he is either a dual spirit (town) or part of the light mafia.
if we want to go safe and he doesn't reveal role, then we should lynch him.

oh right yeah you cant claim role, just ability.

oops

03/27/2019 06:01:46

asa

93+ tourneys

3DS: 0903-3023-5459

I believe role claiming is allowed, it's only Character claiming that's been banned in the rules

don't quote me :eyes:

03/27/2019 06:28:22

BattleDolphin

395+ tourneys

Wii U: BattleDolphin

3DS: 5429-8245-2326

Surely role claiming is allowed that'd be hecking dumb if not

And ngl I wasn't really convinced jeans was mafia at all, but then windkeeper struck lmfao

I'm down for a jeans lynch

Especially because he didn't even really respond to it, he just did the whole AHA I WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT!

Also jeans I have no clue what the 2nd paragraph means at all

03/27/2019 07:03:15

JEANS

84+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496

BattleDolphin said:
I'm down for a jeans lynch
Especially because he didn't even really respond to it, he just did the whole AHA I WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT!

did u miss my post before my most recent one, I did respond to it, maybe you got confused because I didnt quote it or something

BattleDolphin said:
Also jeans I have no clue what the 2nd paragraph means at all

just that half of page 12 is talking about how great a play is, that isnt even correct lol

03/27/2019 07:42:44

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

JEANS said:
to claiming role, I wanna see how more of town responds to what ive already said before I claim my role, that is assuming, nobody lynches me and actually gives me the chance. (lynch them after if they do this)

I feel like the chances that you're making things up is pretty low because that implies your "My role is X and it can do Z but not if either mafia team do A" is something you made up on your own. If you were going to lie about the power you wouldn't make it needlessly complicated.

Your explanation that you saw you were a spirit and assumed that light = spirit is such a shitty defense that I actually think this is likely to actually be true.

03/27/2019 07:52:25

Maribro

188+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

Just a heads up I've been at work all day and now I'm going to the Perth local. I'll catch up on everything properly after I finish work tomorrow.

03/27/2019 09:25:33

Ghostbone

336+ tourneys

Wii U: FreeGothitelle

JEANS said:
to claiming role, I wanna see how more of town responds to what ive already said before I claim my role, that is assuming, nobody lynches me and actually gives me the chance. (lynch them after if they do this)

We've got like one day left can you stop delaying so we don't have time to react adequately to what you're going to post.

Just looks like you're trying to dodge a lynch in last minute confusion.

03/27/2019 09:47:06

JonCheee

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Switch: SW-5112-5382-9630

Wii U: JonCheee

3DS: 1220-6465-9143

i agree with ghost here, i'm gonna put him back on L-2

vote: jeans

03/27/2019 10:04:28

Extra

487+ tourneys

Wii U: unwnded

ghost stole what i was gonna say ):

but yeah im not a fan of waiting much longer cos lets say he does claim like tomorrow and it looks trustworthy, we then have like a bit over 24 hrs to decide who we go after next? and what if that person roleclaims as well??? id rather not rush but id also rather not have a no lynch day 1 so

03/27/2019 10:41:55

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

Just kill him lmao he's obviously mafia.

03/27/2019 14:20:07

dean

81+ tourneys

Wii U: dean7599

3DS: 1435-4425-6023

JEANS said:
also people arguing for like 8 posts about who made the play and who planned it etc. , is annoying :rage:. could talk about relevant information over it.

Why don't YOU say something relevant instead of whining about this?

Whose reactions were you actually waiting for? Boozer, Blaze and MrL?

I agree with Ghost, it seems like you're stalling for time and you've left us with very little time.
Speak or die.
L-1 in ten minutes.

VOTE: JEANS

03/27/2019 23:21:07

LtLongshot

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Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039

Wii U: LtLongshot

L-1 monkaS

03/28/2019 01:49:15

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Sorry guys, ive been busy the past couple days around and after my most recent post due to assessments being due procrastination and work, would you like me to hammer him when i get home if no one else has (5PM AEDT/4PM AEST)

03/28/2019 02:35:28

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

I'd start talking about what your power does if I were you JEANS. If you do get lynched and you're town then at least the rest of town can get information from it.

Blaze said:
Sorry guys, ive been busy the past couple days around and after my most recent post due to assessments being due procrastination and work, would you like me to hammer him when i get home if no one else has (5PM AEDT/4PM AEST)

I'd prefer it if he'd tell us more about his power but the longer he waits means the more likely he's stalling for time which would indicate he's lying.

03/28/2019 02:44:11

BattleDolphin

395+ tourneys

Wii U: BattleDolphin

3DS: 5429-8245-2326

I wanna hear his role too, but I'm likely going to come on and hammer at like 10-11 tonight if he hasn't said anything

With warning first ofc

03/28/2019 03:04:29

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

BattleDolphin said:
I wanna hear his role too, but I'm likely going to come on and hammer at like 10-11 tonight if he hasn't said anything
With warning first ofc

Same.

For me the way he's reacting by being like "imagine gloating when you're wrong" kind of makes me think he's town.

It also seems like he has no supporters at all, pretty much the whole game is against him lol. The two reasons for this would be he's town or his team members are bussing him.

Either way, if he IS town then he's not helping town at all by withholding info and stalling with only a day to go before deadline. The only team this would slightly benefit is a mafia one so...

03/28/2019 03:13:27

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Ill leave it to mr battledolphin o7

03/28/2019 03:27:01

JEANS

84+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496

hello im home now

ok fine

im doctor smile
and the 'a' that light and dark could both do is kill someone I heal. it says if they both target someone I heal then they die anyway. SO i just read it as if a town has a shot power or whatever then that'd happen lol. but nah then i learnt there was 2 mafia.

also me claiming this means im like most of the time dead tonight! BUT because there's 2 mafia it means that maybe either both kill me and I save someone that way, or they just assume the other one will do it and I live that way heh.

also I wasnt stalling or whatever still have til tomorrow night and that's like as long as it took to get 7 votes on me like 26 hours so I dont see the problem :)

03/28/2019 06:21:57

dean

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3DS: 1435-4425-6023

I don't think I believe you.

"my role can do Z power but invisi explained it what it was in a flavour way so there was a bit of confusion exactly as to what I even was":
a) you just said you were the DOCTOR; there are only so many ways you can interpret "doctor"
b) No Comment about anything related to what my role is but the rest of my PM (who I am, win condition etc.) is EXTREMELY straightforward so I'm skeptical he's given you some cryptic nonsense that you couldn't interpret as "I target this dude and he doesn't die at night"

"I cant use Z power if light or dark do 'A' to counteract Z"
c) Key word "or"; you've now changed it to "and" (light AND dark attempt to kill the same player)
d) I asked you yesterday if you were withholding information about the mafia factions from us; if it was as simple as "they both kill the same dude I can't protect them" then instead of saying "no Dean I'm not withholding anything" you ignored it...

"'a' that light and dark could both do is kill someone I heal."
e) This would be awful phrasing from Invisi; he'd basically be confirming to you that there are no town-aligned killing roles for no reason! instead using extremely simple phrasing such as "you cannot protect from multiple kill attempts"

And f) If you are a townie in the hotseat on L-2 with the day deadline coming up in 48 hours and you know you're going to be AFK for the next 24 hours you NEED TO ANNOUNCE that you're going to go away for the next 24 hours! so it just seems to be you've stalled / spent time coming up with this claim

I by no means speak on behalf of the entire town but I have no qualms with Blaze or BattleDolphin hammering tonight.

03/28/2019 07:22:12

Bijou

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Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

That's an interesting sounding way to make a doctor work, but earlier you said this:

JEANS said:
then there's like a line saying I cant use Z power if light or dark do 'A' to counteract Z.

If the power works like you say then this should be 'if light AND dark do A to counteract Z'.

Yeah?

I think you have too many inconsistencies adding up now JEANS, I'll give like half an hour before I hammer unless you've got any reasonable rebuttal to make that might make sense.

03/28/2019 07:28:03

Ghostbone

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Thanks Dean and Bijou for doing the detective work for me

Like in the event Jeans is town it's really unfortunate, but he's stumbled over his words and made himself as suspicious as possible this whole time so I'm also ok with someone hammering him at this stage.

03/28/2019 07:35:56

Bijou

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Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

JEANS said:
so in my head I was like oh so i guess if town uses a roleblock on me or whatever then my power wont work. there was a town roleblock like 2 games ago so it was a reasonable assumption!

JEANS said:
SO i just read it as if a town has a shot power or whatever then that'd happen lol. but nah then i learnt there was 2 mafia.

Your story changed here too. I'm going to hammer at 7pm Melbourne time.

03/28/2019 07:37:46

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