im pretty sure everything with roles is done randomly, that's how dean does it anyway.
12/27/2016 10:20:45
I didn't take a night action so I can't confirmed that I was roleblocked.
But I doubt Duon would make that up anyway, really risky.
Vote: Unvote
12/27/2016 10:25:59
But I doubt Duon would make that up anyway, really risky.
Vote: Unvote
12/27/2016 10:25:59
VOTE: Unvote
I agree with Ghostbone's reasoning. His inactivity an be explained by what Bijou said about him probably posting as frequently as he can. can*
12/27/2016 14:49:55
I agree with Ghostbone's reasoning. His inactivity an be explained by what Bijou said about him probably posting as frequently as he can. can*
12/27/2016 14:49:55
Thinking on it a bit more Duons play is still weird/inconsistent.
Mentioned earlier that we should be looking at roleblock roles and whether they managed to target the mafia member performing the kill (or sk since mafia could have killed themselves with bus driver reveal), so Duon should have been super sus of me from the get go, even if he didn't want to claim right away.
Yet he joined the lynch train I started lol.
12/27/2016 15:22:44
Mentioned earlier that we should be looking at roleblock roles and whether they managed to target the mafia member performing the kill (or sk since mafia could have killed themselves with bus driver reveal), so Duon should have been super sus of me from the get go, even if he didn't want to claim right away.
Yet he joined the lynch train I started lol.
12/27/2016 15:22:44
My inital thinking behind it was that SK hit Mr L and that I saved you from a maf hit. Then all these other possibilites started popping up and with the bus driver reveal I came to the conclusion that I did jack shit last night.
I still think Corvid is the safe pick. While everyones been on my case about being a lurker, hes hid in the shadows in true Corvid fashion. I cant go back and check cause Im on mobile Im pretty sure he hasn't made any real contribution, and he has a history of not talking much while in an anti-town role.
Kiwi/Autumn keeps bandwagoning on ideas but Im gonna chop this up to him being a sub par player and trying to blend in long enough to look relevant.
12/27/2016 16:24:25
I still think Corvid is the safe pick. While everyones been on my case about being a lurker, hes hid in the shadows in true Corvid fashion. I cant go back and check cause Im on mobile Im pretty sure he hasn't made any real contribution, and he has a history of not talking much while in an anti-town role.
Kiwi/Autumn keeps bandwagoning on ideas but Im gonna chop this up to him being a sub par player and trying to blend in long enough to look relevant.
12/27/2016 16:24:25
Vote: Unvote
If anything Duon's claims make sense. I would be surprised if he was anything other than a role blocker. His claim would have been way too risky.
He could be Mafia role blocker so I'm
not that sure.
12/27/2016 21:37:05
If anything Duon's claims make sense. I would be surprised if he was anything other than a role blocker. His claim would have been way too risky.
He could be Mafia role blocker so I'm
not that sure.
12/27/2016 21:37:05
He's specifically a jailor tho so it's a bit different, he can permanently protect someone with day actions rather than night actions.
12/28/2016 01:10:09
12/28/2016 01:10:09
Oh Woops. I've just looked it up now and since it's a town aligned role (I think so? Or at least generally) I'm actually not that suspicious of Duon.
And it makes more sense to me heh 😅
12/28/2016 03:00:44
And it makes more sense to me heh 😅
12/28/2016 03:00:44
I believe duons claim, lucky that I didnt L-1 before he claimed
with muriki being comfirmed town, I feel like the next most sus is corvid.
VOTE: Corvid
watch for duon just incase he does something sus
12/28/2016 03:14:48
with muriki being comfirmed town, I feel like the next most sus is corvid.
VOTE: Corvid
watch for duon just incase he does something sus
12/28/2016 03:14:48
Kind of want to hear what Dean/Invisi/Maribro have to say about the latest developments. You guys still alive or what?
12/28/2016 03:44:36
12/28/2016 03:44:36
Duon may have made a convincing post but that doesnt make him any less of a DICKhead
12/28/2016 04:24:55
12/28/2016 04:24:55
I'll be a tad busy tonight and tomorrow. I'll try to keep updated though.
<3
12/28/2016 05:05:17
<3
12/28/2016 05:05:17
Thoughts: Duon prob town. Very risky play if he is maf, but maf are prob prepared to take big risks cos of how badly day 1 played out for them. Specifically calling on Ghostbone was an interesting choice and that's not really something I'd have done… Would be worth keeping an eye on him in any case, as like I've said, maf are gonna try and take risks to win from this position. Ghost raises some interesting points about how Duon's play has been weird. I'm probably gonna unvote for now though and have a think about who we should pressure next.
Corvid just seems like an "easy" target at this stage and I would prefer if we pressure people who are actually gonna talk. As for Bijou theorycrafting about game balance, it's still ultimately random and I don't think it's wise to spend too much time trying to devise who is what alignment based purely off what we think the mods would balance to. Last game, the maf team was not an especially strong one besides Windkeeper until they got Ghostbone through traitor.
12/28/2016 05:21:05
Corvid just seems like an "easy" target at this stage and I would prefer if we pressure people who are actually gonna talk. As for Bijou theorycrafting about game balance, it's still ultimately random and I don't think it's wise to spend too much time trying to devise who is what alignment based purely off what we think the mods would balance to. Last game, the maf team was not an especially strong one besides Windkeeper until they got Ghostbone through traitor.
12/28/2016 05:21:05
Everything seems to be adding up so far with all the claims, but can someone remind me as to why there a lot of votes on Hydro.
12/28/2016 05:32:39
12/28/2016 05:32:39
oh I haven't posted for a while that's pretty bad of me.
Corvid can you please... say something? You've just made three posts this day mostly to defend yourself from SK accusations, any attempts to scumhunt have seemed extremely halfhearted.
I don't like picking on the common lynch targets but I'm not really sure on Laggy either...
Bijou's story checks out, I'm inclined to believe him.
Duon's Jailkeeper is a common mafia role (can either roleblock annoying town roles or protect teammates from vig/serial killers) though.
But I would imagine earlygame a mafia jailkeeper would use its powers for protection rather than roleblocking since no townsfolk had roleclaimed that early in the game he would be protecting Ghostbone, and at this stage I consider it unlikely that Duon and Ghostbone would be on a mafia team together.
Rhyno asked me how I distributed roles and I told him I used Excel's RAND function, so expect the game to be as random as a PRNG generator can be.
I also don't think anyone is actually "good" at this game but since Bijou posted his thoughts I may as well add mine:
Me: i'm dean.
Maribro: he's one of my stronger town reads atm.
Ghostbone: he was one of my stronger scum reads earlier in the day but that's died down a little.
Bijou: puts himself in the good players club after one and a half games. Must've been pretty happy with last night's play eh?
12/28/2016 07:14:26
Corvid can you please... say something? You've just made three posts this day mostly to defend yourself from SK accusations, any attempts to scumhunt have seemed extremely halfhearted.
I don't like picking on the common lynch targets but I'm not really sure on Laggy either...
Bijou's story checks out, I'm inclined to believe him.
Duon's Jailkeeper is a common mafia role (can either roleblock annoying town roles or protect teammates from vig/serial killers) though.
But I would imagine earlygame a mafia jailkeeper would use its powers for protection rather than roleblocking since no townsfolk had roleclaimed that early in the game he would be protecting Ghostbone, and at this stage I consider it unlikely that Duon and Ghostbone would be on a mafia team together.
Rhyno asked me how I distributed roles and I told him I used Excel's RAND function, so expect the game to be as random as a PRNG generator can be.
I also don't think anyone is actually "good" at this game but since Bijou posted his thoughts I may as well add mine:
Me: i'm dean.
Maribro: he's one of my stronger town reads atm.
Ghostbone: he was one of my stronger scum reads earlier in the day but that's died down a little.
Bijou: puts himself in the good players club after one and a half games. Must've been pretty happy with last night's play eh?
12/28/2016 07:14:26
I was pretty impressed with myself, yep.
What are your thoughts on Invisi, Dean? I notice you excluded him.
12/28/2016 07:36:58
What are your thoughts on Invisi, Dean? I notice you excluded him.
12/28/2016 07:36:58
My bad, must've missed that.
I'm neutral on Invisi, his Day 1 contribution was a bit lame but I'm not sure if I expect any different from him. I was looking to get more reads on him from Day 2 onwards but he's been absent.
It did stick out to me that he was suggesting the cop and doc what to do WRT Murkiri and InsertName, it could've been a strategy to direct town power roles to a position favourable to mafia. But otherwise neutral.
12/28/2016 07:46:29
I'm neutral on Invisi, his Day 1 contribution was a bit lame but I'm not sure if I expect any different from him. I was looking to get more reads on him from Day 2 onwards but he's been absent.
It did stick out to me that he was suggesting the cop and doc what to do WRT Murkiri and InsertName, it could've been a strategy to direct town power roles to a position favourable to mafia. But otherwise neutral.
12/28/2016 07:46:29
I mean, as far as the game has gone so far ive just been an easy target for town, and regardless of who the mafia is I dont believe they would lynch me no matter what role I was given. Again, reminding Duon that I play like this in literally every game, regardless of if im scum or not, mainly because im a dumbfuck when it comes to making discussion. Honestly I want to help town, but I dont see any real leads to Maf besides Hydro and Invisi. Again, if i really was SK i wouldnt go and kill the guy who had been targeting me during day 1
12/28/2016 08:07:15
12/28/2016 08:07:15
Just posting to let everyone know I'm here.
With Duon's jailor claim, I honestly think they're a town jailor rather than a Mafia roleblocker. I believe Bijou is the bus driver too as they clearly delivered it and explained it rather than "lol I'm a bus driver" or something a bad player would do.
Corvid SK theory only benefits the mafia unless people want to lynch them for playing like they do.
12/28/2016 10:26:08
With Duon's jailor claim, I honestly think they're a town jailor rather than a Mafia roleblocker. I believe Bijou is the bus driver too as they clearly delivered it and explained it rather than "lol I'm a bus driver" or something a bad player would do.
Corvid SK theory only benefits the mafia unless people want to lynch them for playing like they do.
12/28/2016 10:26:08
Yes hello I am alive,
So much has happened in the last few days so I'll say this:
Bijou I do believe that you are a town-aligned Bus Driver, your reasoning works out in my honest opinion. The reason I had such bad vibes from you is that you were playing extremely pro-town and that didn't sit with me very well considering how early on in the game it was. Though having the bus driver ability allows you to save yourself from attacks and redirect them to others. Also can someone clarify for me and those that may not know if the bus driver also changes investigative results? eg. (you invested a mafia member but they were transported with someone else who isn't mafia, and your results came back as town and of course the other way around).
I'm not suspicious of Duon's Jailor claim either, I think coming out as a town member early on is a relatively safe move on town's part even if you are a power role, because the mafia would be more inclined to kill you but keeping them alive to throw suspicion is also risky in the off chance that the townie's role messes up the mafia's night (like how Bijou got Mr. L killed in N1 [if that was a mafia kill]). Ghost has not called out Duon's claim either and I wouldn't assume, like Insert and Murkiri, that they would out their partnership this early in the game considering how mafia is behind quite a bit.
In honesty I don't have any good reads on anyone, I haven't really voted with bandwagons because the reasons haven't won me over and I'm trying my hardest to read in between the lines of people's posts. But if Hydropimp posts the way he does no matter his role that makes it hard to get a read on him so for now my vote stays.
@Mariobro I'm sorry if my posts are wishy washy. It's probably a combination of word-vomiting through university and me just being a very vocal and expressive writer in general.
And is everyday going to push for a lynch without much evidence? I only ask this because this concept is very foreign to me.
12/28/2016 11:07:01
So much has happened in the last few days so I'll say this:
Bijou I do believe that you are a town-aligned Bus Driver, your reasoning works out in my honest opinion. The reason I had such bad vibes from you is that you were playing extremely pro-town and that didn't sit with me very well considering how early on in the game it was. Though having the bus driver ability allows you to save yourself from attacks and redirect them to others. Also can someone clarify for me and those that may not know if the bus driver also changes investigative results? eg. (you invested a mafia member but they were transported with someone else who isn't mafia, and your results came back as town and of course the other way around).
I'm not suspicious of Duon's Jailor claim either, I think coming out as a town member early on is a relatively safe move on town's part even if you are a power role, because the mafia would be more inclined to kill you but keeping them alive to throw suspicion is also risky in the off chance that the townie's role messes up the mafia's night (like how Bijou got Mr. L killed in N1 [if that was a mafia kill]). Ghost has not called out Duon's claim either and I wouldn't assume, like Insert and Murkiri, that they would out their partnership this early in the game considering how mafia is behind quite a bit.
In honesty I don't have any good reads on anyone, I haven't really voted with bandwagons because the reasons haven't won me over and I'm trying my hardest to read in between the lines of people's posts. But if Hydropimp posts the way he does no matter his role that makes it hard to get a read on him so for now my vote stays.
@Mariobro I'm sorry if my posts are wishy washy. It's probably a combination of word-vomiting through university and me just being a very vocal and expressive writer in general.
And is everyday going to push for a lynch without much evidence? I only ask this because this concept is very foreign to me.
12/28/2016 11:07:01
Vote:Unvote
At the moment we have 4 people that we can safely assume are town. Since it has been confirmed that Insert and Murkiri are able to talk during the day privately we can safely assume that's also the case for the mafia. At the moment I'm not sure how much that will give us but we should keep this in mind in case something comes up.
12/28/2016 11:21:42
At the moment we have 4 people that we can safely assume are town. Since it has been confirmed that Insert and Murkiri are able to talk during the day privately we can safely assume that's also the case for the mafia. At the moment I'm not sure how much that will give us but we should keep this in mind in case something comes up.
12/28/2016 11:21:42
Activity post for the day. With the recent revelations, I'm inclined to believe that Duon is what he's saying he is. It's too risky for him otherwise, and the reasoning adds up as well.
With regards to taking out historically bad players, normally I'd say that from Day 2 onward it's not a good choice. But due to BIjou's play which has put town ahead of mafia, I guess still have that freedom.
My vote on Laggy is staying tho.
12/28/2016 12:09:26
With regards to taking out historically bad players, normally I'd say that from Day 2 onward it's not a good choice. But due to BIjou's play which has put town ahead of mafia, I guess still have that freedom.
My vote on Laggy is staying tho.
12/28/2016 12:09:26
Hello, I am alive. I am home from my grandparents' place, so I should be back to more regular posts. I have been skimming the thread about once a day, so I'm vaguely up to date, but I haven't been paying too much attention and I also haven't read anything posted today.
I'll read through it all and give thoughts tomorrow. Alright, I think I'm mostly up to date. Bijou and Duon's claims are interesting, though I don't think it's wise to blindly believe them immediately as a lot of people seem to be doing. Particularly Duon, who could easily use a jailor claim while being a mafia roleblocker. Not to say they are lying, just that we shouldn't discount the possibility.
To answer Hydro's question - I have no actual reason for voting for you, you were the first person that popped into my head. You're still a better pick than any other leads I have right now (ie. none) =P
12/29/2016 00:16:57
I'll read through it all and give thoughts tomorrow. Alright, I think I'm mostly up to date. Bijou and Duon's claims are interesting, though I don't think it's wise to blindly believe them immediately as a lot of people seem to be doing. Particularly Duon, who could easily use a jailor claim while being a mafia roleblocker. Not to say they are lying, just that we shouldn't discount the possibility.
To answer Hydro's question - I have no actual reason for voting for you, you were the first person that popped into my head. You're still a better pick than any other leads I have right now (ie. none) =P
12/29/2016 00:16:57
VOTE: Unvote
Based on what i have seen in previous posts (Eg. Insertname's, Bijou's, Ghost's and KiwifruitKoala's Posts on pg 22/23), Duon's inactivity can be explained to just be the way he plays. I was mainly wanted to pressure him due to his inactivity and because he seems like an experienced player and i wanted to how he would react.
12/29/2016 02:40:48
Based on what i have seen in previous posts (Eg. Insertname's, Bijou's, Ghost's and KiwifruitKoala's Posts on pg 22/23), Duon's inactivity can be explained to just be the way he plays. I was mainly wanted to pressure him due to his inactivity and because he seems like an experienced player and i wanted to how he would react.
12/29/2016 02:40:48
So right now who do we have up for pressure?
Corvid because he isn't a top player and a potential SK role
Hydro because he kinda just seems suss
anyone else? Extra and Dean still have votes on CJ
12/29/2016 05:07:46
Corvid because he isn't a top player and a potential SK role
Hydro because he kinda just seems suss
anyone else? Extra and Dean still have votes on CJ
12/29/2016 05:07:46