Super Smash Bros Ultimate Themed Mafia | Games Over! Town Wins! page 35

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Smash Ultimates been out for a month now, so it's about time to have a game themed around it!

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Survivors (8): DD, Blaze, JEANS, Invisi, Bijou, JonCheee, Exist, Windkeeper0

Dead Players (13):
Night 0: Deez - Town-Alligned Lucario (Flavour Kill)
Day 1: Duon - Neutral Incineroar (Mod Killed)
Night 1: Extra - Town-Aligned Rosalina (Burnt)
Night 1: Maribro - Town-Aligned Pokemon Trainer (Shot)
Day 2: Glace - Town-Aligned Wii Fit Trainer (Mod Killed)
Day 2: Insie - Mafia Dark Pit (Lynched)
Night 2: MrL (Night Killed)
Day 3: Asa - Mafia Game & Watch (Lynched)
Night 3: Aerodrome - Town-Aligned Isabelle (Shot)
Night 3: Dean - Mafia Piranha Plant (Burnt)
Day 4: Atyeo - Mafia King K.Rool (Lynched)
Night 4: ThatLaggyPerson - Town Aligned Palutena (Burnt)
Day 5: Boozer - Neutral Bowser Jr. (Lynched)
Day 6: Voltz - Neutral Bowser (Lynched)

Player Changes
Day 1: Asa replaces Varous

Mod List:
Battledolphin
Rhyno

Rhyno 02/16/2019 03:57:37

Exist

94+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5001-3317-9049

Wii U: Mr_Parchy

Okay, as I said before, I'm a sensor.
Night 1 I sensed 4 threats to town, Night 2 I sensed 3, and Night 3 I sensed 4 again.
Removing all confirmed members and myself (if I'm mafia, this info isn't trustworthy anyway so if you choose to believe it, you're also believing that I'm town.) this means there are two threats to town out of:

JonCheee

Invisi

Windkeeper

Boozer

There is one threat to town out of:

Bijou

Blaze

ThatLaggyPerson

Voltz

JEANS

And there are two threats out of:

Atyeo

Bijou

Joncheee

Invisi

Assuming there are three threats left to town, if Atyeo is scum, DD must be scum and vice versa. Additionally, if Bijou is scum, Windkeeper or Boozer must also be scum and vice versa. In both of these cases, the final member of scum must be either JonCheee or Invisi. If anyone I haven't mentioned in this paragraph is scum, both JonCheee and Invisi must be scum.

And just so everything remains above board, if I'm not excluded from the results, I'm in the same category as Invisi and Joncheee, but again, if you think I'm scum, you probably shouldn't trust my data.

02/12/2019 01:04:11

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

If we hit Atyeo as scum we 100% win the game, if Jon is town motivator he can motivate me tonight, (which would confirm him town) and i can role block both DD and Invisi tonight? And if Atyeo isnt scum does Bijou have some questions to answer.

That is what im gathering from the data, correct me if im wrong though.

Also i feel like the only way mafia has a chance of winning is if they kill me tonight, so in case i DO get killed/not motivated, we could have laggy watching me, unless Exist is lying the plan is fool proof i THINK, ill write it im more detail later.

Quadruple post, but i dont think Exist is lying and i trust bijou,

02/12/2019 01:36:04

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Hey Exist thanks for posting. I'm at work at the moment but I'll reply to this on my lunch break.

As a quick response though I think the likely anti town players are DD, Atyeo and Invisi based on what you've posted.

02/12/2019 01:42:08

Exist

94+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5001-3317-9049

Wii U: Mr_Parchy

I agree. My suspicions have been on DD the whole game, some of what Atyeo has said today sends off alarm bells in my head. Between JonCheee and Invisi, It seems JonCheee is all but confirmed at this point. Invisi Claiming Vanilla Townie is interesting. Having a single Vanilla townie in a role chaos game is supposedly so common that some people treat it like an innocent child claim.

02/12/2019 01:54:13

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Tonight can we look over information on page 31, some things in my head just arent adding up but its probably really obvious lol.

02/12/2019 02:03:30

Exist

94+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5001-3317-9049

Wii U: Mr_Parchy

Actually yeah, after rereading page 31, Joncheee must be the arsonist given our Atyeo and DD conclusion is true.

02/12/2019 02:18:00

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

There is a 0% chance jonchee is arsonist if you believe laggy is a watcher because laggy can confirm he received motivator powers night 3.

02/12/2019 02:24:14

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Yes, also my plan is coming soon. Just writing it up in word lol.

02/12/2019 02:26:51

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Was going to ask you if the hammerer was included in your sensor reads but I went back and worked it out myself and found your post was accurate.

I think we have enough information to lynch Atyeo right now if we want to do that.

I would recommend role blocking Invisi and DD tonight.

DD made a post about being a sacrifice for the mafia in day one which I can find the quote for when I'm on a PC if people want it. This leads me to believe he's a mafia traitor.

This is a role that only joins the main mafia faction if they night kill him. Otherwise his presence in the game doesn't matter once all mafia are dead.

Therefore we should kill Atyeo today and Invisi tomorrow, then the game will be over.

Of the roles we still do not know, since Voltz doesn't want to reveal I believe he's a Beloved Princess role or something like that.

Which makes it likely that Windkeeper is a bodyguard for him.

02/12/2019 02:38:35

Blaze

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Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

This is basically my plan, ill still send it when the internet at school comes back.

Kind of useless now tho but here it is

Suggest anything that you might think would be better, this would be based around the fact that Atyeo is scum and Exists information is correct

As Exist said, if Atyeo is scum that means DD is scum, as well as either Jonchee or Invisi being the last scum in town.
Today we can lynch Atyeo, I’m 99% sure he will flip anti town, and if he does, then tonight

Jon says he’s the motivator, (This is almost confirmed through process of elimination, the people who were with Mr L on N2, and what they were doing there, as well as laggy confirming he was motivated night 3)
If Jon motivates me tonight, I can role block 2 people, and to confirm I was motivated we can have laggy watch me tonight to see if Jon visited me, If I WAS motivated, I can role block Invisi and DD which would render them useless considering they’re scum, thered be no night kills, unless one of us has a killing power (I pretty sure Bijou mentioned he had a Bookie reward so that allows him to kill tonight, in which case he should probably kill DD) Then we lynch Invisi tomorrow.
In a weird scenario, Tomorrow morning if I’m dead, laggy can tell you who visited me, aka say if Jon visited me tonight and I’m dead in the morning, you can probably safely assume that Jon is last scum, but that event is very unlikely

Open to suggestions or questions, I don’t see any way that mafia can win unless if we use this method, unless we get super outplayed.

TLDR
Atyeo gets Lynched Today

Jon Motivates Me

Laggy Watches Me (Optional but better safe than sorry)

We kill DD tonight (assuming that Bijou had that Vig reward he mentioned)

We lynch Invisi tomorrow.

DD and Invisi can be swapped

02/12/2019 02:46:30

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

I only get a bookie reward if Blaze is lynched today btw, so I can't vig DD tonight.

Regardless, I see no reason to drag the day on any longer. If any of us are lying then we will know by tomorrow anyway and the game will still be over.

Let's lynch Atyeo.

02/12/2019 02:47:05

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

That would require people to be active LOL, but if DD is mafia traitor do we just auto win the game if we lynch invisi tomorrow?

02/12/2019 02:49:01

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Yes, the mafia traitor can't perform night kills unless he's recruited to the main faction. So he therefore can't win and would get forfeited.

He might not be a traitor though so definitely still roleblock him lol

I'm only guessing he's a traitor based on the previous mafia interaction with him and him hinting that he wanted to be night killed by mafia to help town.

02/12/2019 02:52:16

Blaze

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Ye will def role block.

02/12/2019 02:54:02

JonCheee

49+ tourneys

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Wii U: JonCheee

3DS: 1220-6465-9143

alright i'm down for this plan blaze set out.

02/12/2019 02:57:31

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

We just need two of Windkeeper/Exist/JEANS/Boozer to finish Atyeo off.

02/12/2019 03:00:40

Boozer

186+ tourneys

Wii U: DevilBoozer

3DS: 4124-5214-3831

Vote: Atyeo

Im helping

02/12/2019 03:48:10

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Whats our plan if atyeo flips town

02/12/2019 03:50:11

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

If Atyeo somehow flips town that means two of Me/Jonchee/Invisi are anti town.

Jon is 99.95% confirmed town at this point so that's make me and Invisi anti town.

And since I know I'm town then this can't happen, so that'd mean Exist is lying. In which case that's an insane play, but I don't think it's possible.

02/12/2019 03:55:56

Exist

94+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5001-3317-9049

Wii U: Mr_Parchy

Something feels off about this. Invisi didn't visit Mr L when he lightning rodded. Should that not clear them up as not Arsonist? Unless it's odd days only or something like that. Doesn't really matter.

Before Atyeo dies, I just want to correct Bijou. If Atyeo flips town, scum will look like Bijou + Joncheee/Invisi + Windkeeper/Boozer or Joncheee + Invisi + Blaze/Laggy/Voltz/JEANS

02/12/2019 04:20:18

Invisi

224+ tourneys

Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489

Hey, sorry I've been busy today. I've skimmed the thread but haven't had the time to do the actual mathematics on Exist's claim. Though if it's pointing to me likely being mafia, I'm obviously going to doubt his claim is even legitimate.

I briefly read up on sensors and it says they're commonly considered OP and almost always X-shot (and seeing how Exist's claim is playing out, I'd have to agree), so I don't think that the mods would've put an unrestricted sensor in the game, even despite the role madness. There's a good chance that he's trying to throw us off to get a few extra days in.

That said, I'm happy to lynch Atyeo today because he seems the best target at the moment and his flip and the night should give us enough info to work off tomorrow. I could hammer him in the next hour or so unless anyone wants to wait?

02/12/2019 04:23:24

Exist

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Switch: SW-5001-3317-9049

Wii U: Mr_Parchy

I'm just going to hammer now before you get in. If my sensor turns up with 0 threats I can breathe a sigh of relief. Also, I think it's best to split up you and Joncheee. I'm not convinced by which of you is scum so this will help inform my decision. I agree that this role seems strong and it's perfectly reasonable for you not to believe me. That would be a pretty strong last-ditch play if I were mafia.

Vote: Atyeo

02/12/2019 04:32:45

Bijou

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Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Exist said:
Something feels off about this. Invisi didn't visit Mr L when he lightning rodded. Should that not clear them up as not Arsonist? Unless it's odd days only or something like that. Doesn't really matter.

The most likely reason is because the Arsonist has a power that makes them invisible to watchers.

Possibly they just decided not to kill that night too but I think the above reasoning is more likely. Serial killer roles commonly come with passive powers that prevent them being investigated or night killed.

02/12/2019 04:34:14

BattleDolphin

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3DS: 5429-8245-2326

A majority has been reached!

Atyeo (7): Voltz, Blaze, Bijou, JonCheee, ThatLaggyPerson, Boozer, Exist
Not voted (5): Windkeeper0, JEANS, DD, Atyeo, Invisi

Enter twilight

02/12/2019 04:37:36

Blaze

41+ tourneys

Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217

Well we in twilight now

02/12/2019 04:40:35

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