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03/25/2019 08:56:33
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03/25/2019 08:58:44
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03/25/2019 08:58:44
ive been out all day and im very tired and dont really know how to respond to all the activity thats been happening right now, sorry.
no one seems to really care about the people ive been sus of (all the big hitters are infighting so w/e) so i'll say one more thing about longshot then leave it alone.
i think his reasoning for not voting isn't great but not hugely suspicious but the second half of this is something i do all the time in irl mafia when i'm scum; basically acknowledging someone's suspicions as reasonable as a 'defense' and then trying to move on/deflect. so this response made me even more sus of longshot LOL. granted this may be only a scumtell for me specifically.
but whatever seems like nobody but me is interested in this so i'll probs just bandwagon at some point tbhhhhhh
03/25/2019 10:05:29
no one seems to really care about the people ive been sus of (all the big hitters are infighting so w/e) so i'll say one more thing about longshot then leave it alone.
LtLongshot said:
I mostly wanted to wait a bit longer for other bandwagons to go off before i got more evidence before I came out with this post. But thats fair if you are sus of me with the lack of posting/agro.
i think his reasoning for not voting isn't great but not hugely suspicious but the second half of this is something i do all the time in irl mafia when i'm scum; basically acknowledging someone's suspicions as reasonable as a 'defense' and then trying to move on/deflect. so this response made me even more sus of longshot LOL. granted this may be only a scumtell for me specifically.
but whatever seems like nobody but me is interested in this so i'll probs just bandwagon at some point tbhhhhhh
03/25/2019 10:05:29
Gonna be honest, I mostly skimmed through the page 10 walls, but I did like this part
So I think this is a pretty good point, that the people that are going to attack others over game setup are probably the people that themselves know what the game setup is. Otherwise how would they know that suggesting a specific ratio is suspicious in the first place? Mafia are at least going to be MUCH more confident in their reads when another player theorizes about game setup, and thus more likely to go on the attack in regards to it. The payoff is also pretty good if their read on one of the members of the opposite factions works out and a lynch occurs, since as town we're a lot more likely to trust their "reads" from that point onwards.
If we had a townie that knew game setup I'd have hoped they would have come forward and clarified it for us (after letting other discussion play out for information's sake). Now this is getting super meta but I don't think a role like that would exist because as town we can pretty quickly corroborate their info as soon as they die, which would remove any mystery over the game setup.
Anyway I'm gonna swap my vote to Asa as they're pretty clearly following the thread but just repeatedly delaying their response.
Vote: Asa
03/25/2019 10:09:31
Maribro said:I think Aero and asa suspect that Bijou is mafia because of what he said about the game setup (they think he knows something). I think Aero and asa therefore know something about the game setup themselves (maybe homebrew townies with setup information? Who the fuck knows in this game) but maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree completely. This is all very convoluted and probably just me being too suss of people that I'm usually suss of (Aero mainly).
So I think this is a pretty good point, that the people that are going to attack others over game setup are probably the people that themselves know what the game setup is. Otherwise how would they know that suggesting a specific ratio is suspicious in the first place? Mafia are at least going to be MUCH more confident in their reads when another player theorizes about game setup, and thus more likely to go on the attack in regards to it. The payoff is also pretty good if their read on one of the members of the opposite factions works out and a lynch occurs, since as town we're a lot more likely to trust their "reads" from that point onwards.
If we had a townie that knew game setup I'd have hoped they would have come forward and clarified it for us (after letting other discussion play out for information's sake). Now this is getting super meta but I don't think a role like that would exist because as town we can pretty quickly corroborate their info as soon as they die, which would remove any mystery over the game setup.
Anyway I'm gonna swap my vote to Asa as they're pretty clearly following the thread but just repeatedly delaying their response.
Vote: Asa
03/25/2019 10:09:31
I take back what I said about Maribro, this is the agressively defensive Maribro I know lmao BUT that did only happen after I mentioned it so yeet
03/25/2019 11:17:03
03/25/2019 11:17:03
I'll probably wait until the asa vote but currently my votes are probs going to be going towards him/aero. mostly because of the multitude of reasons going on above.
03/25/2019 11:50:54
03/25/2019 11:50:54
Extra said:
but whatever seems like nobody but me is interested in this so i'll probs just bandwagon at some point tbhhhhhh
Longshot was pretty fast to defend me when Asa and Aero voted me so he's not particularly high up on my scum reads list at the moment which is why I haven't responded to your read until now, but I just wanted you to know I've seen it and you're not being ignored < 3
03/25/2019 12:59:29
I've written up my response to your questions Dean but the formatting is a bit of a mess right now and I want to check through it when I'm not half asleep so I'll post it tomorrow. It should be up by mid-day sorry for the delay.
03/25/2019 14:09:36
03/25/2019 14:09:36
Yeah whatever my computer froze when I was typing a response to Marioboro so I'll put a raincheck on that until day 2 if we're both still alive.
Will move on to something else after lunch.
03/26/2019 00:53:38
Will move on to something else after lunch.
03/26/2019 00:53:38
dean said:
Yeah whatever my computer froze when I was typing a response to Marioboro so I'll put a raincheck on that until day 2 if we're both still alive.
Will move on to something else after lunch.
:(
03/26/2019 01:19:13
dean said:
Yeah whatever my computer froze when I was typing a response to Marioboro so I'll put a raincheck on that until day 2 if we're both still alive.
Will move on to something else after lunch.
03/26/2019 02:48:32
I hope one of you dies so I don't need to see any more of The Great Wall of Dean/Mariobro
03/26/2019 03:02:13
03/26/2019 03:02:13
Maribro said:My game on MU and seeing people discuss the last game on here kinda showed me I don't really look at things as in depth as I could.
By the way Maribro, I don't know what happened in your singles game but in the hydra one you played with me at least 50% of the players were fucking garbo.
There was one team that was literally role playing in character to some anime thing. They pissed me off. Should have lynched them just for that lol.
But yeah in that game they lynched us day one because we pushed for a policy lynch which we didn't know wasn't a thing usually in other games and made us look suspicious from the get go. If they were actually good players they would have focused elsewhere instead of tunnelling us while we were asleep every night and giving us like 15 pages of bullshit to catch up on each day.
03/26/2019 03:15:26
Ok I'll save you guys the wall for now.
03/26/2019 04:27:56
03/26/2019 04:27:56
Bijou said:I didn't write anything off, it was all speculation from other players. Since it's such a point of contention, I'll address it now.
I think your play so far has been pretty questionable. The character claim thing at the start wasn't a great play but I suppose you wrote it off pretty easily by claiming you were shitposting.
My reasoning for throwing out a claim was to:
1) generate discussion
2) as a joke/reference to the last game I played where aero claimed bulletproof after he was mod confirmed innnocent townie
The joke may not have been obvious, but the start of the post was "Since I'm at L-8 now, I guess it's time to claim"
I guess many of you would not have seen it since I edited it out relative quickly so the only point of reference you guys have is JEANS blowing it all up out of proportion
I find your general play to be somewhat annoying too because you seem to want to flex on other players about your own mafia ability.I am aware that I can come off ass arrogant, and condescending/patronizing.
Sometimes that's intentional (sorry blaze, but you were just making it too much fun at the time)
Sometimes that's a result of frustration (I get pretty frustrated when people choose not to play @jeans if you actually have a problem with me beyond this game, I'm more than happy to discuss this with you separately afterwards. I have nothing against you as a person)
I'm not a fan of this, so I wouldn't mind seeing you get lynched just to spite you in general.that's a horrible reasoning.
Pretty much all you've done so far is tunnel on me though, is there anyone else in particular that you feel we should be voting for today? I'm open to suggestion and do have a few others in mind myself.I certainly do. In fact, my vote is currently on one now.
I'm going to to break this up into multiple posts because I realise this could get long the forum is shitting itself
03/26/2019 04:34:20
Collecting my thoughts now. Can we reinstate the rule where Ben Gold dies if he doesn't post? It's been nearly four days. OK I'll be dumb and only focus on the players that have had suspicion brought upon them recently because getting anyone else lynched in the next 72 hours seems like it would be very difficult.
Longshot: interesting that he seemed to say "its such a high mafia game." with a degree of confidence. I don't know he seemed very nervous when he put JEANS on L-3? Is there such a fine line between L-3 and L-4 that L-3 is "lynch range" and L-4 is not?
asa: TBC
JEANS: I'd like an answer to the question I posed previously.
Or I guess, anyone that's played World of Light can help me out?
I'll post it again here:
MrL: five posts and none in the last 90-odd hours, terrific. I don't like policy lynching but maybe lynching this nerd would give him a good wake-up call.
Maribro: gee I wonder what I think about Maribro?
Blaze: why was there a five-day gap between his posts yesterday and his previous posts?
Blaze also snapped back pretty feistily to this which I thought was somewhat out-of-character?
JonCheee: I prodded him early in the game and he gave an acceptable answer (there's no proof that he wasn't lying but I can't reasonably say that he WAS lying and his answer seemed realistic enough).
I think Ghost's line of thought was interesting and worth pushing further but Ghost didn't say anymore and Jon either chose to not respond to it or hasn't checked the thread since then since he hasn't posted since Sunday.
Bijou: I think he said something dumb... no that's impolite of me. Uninformed? And brought up his "super low key play" as an attempt to save face - I struggle to piece together with any confidence that he'd be mafia at this stage but maybe the legendary Part II will convince me otherwise.
Laggy: he's being useless and not helping which is the same as he was when he was town in Ultimate. I can't read him. Just wish he would say WHO he thinks is most likely to be mafia and WHY.
Lachlan: apart from that one dumb statement I think he's been fine so far.
My preferences: Maribro > either Longshot or Blaze (probably in that order) (or Hydro depending on the answer to my question) > MrL > anyone else
Hometime now.
03/26/2019 06:00:41
Longshot: interesting that he seemed to say "its such a high mafia game." with a degree of confidence. I don't know he seemed very nervous when he put JEANS on L-3? Is there such a fine line between L-3 and L-4 that L-3 is "lynch range" and L-4 is not?
asa: TBC
JEANS: I'd like an answer to the question I posed previously.
Or I guess, anyone that's played World of Light can help me out?
I'll post it again here:
JEANS said:
but nah Im gonna get around to beating it oneday im like 10 hours in or somemshit er last guy I beat was Galleom so I really have no idea what a dharkon is. I dont even know galeem is tbh and at the very start I thought light was town and not a 2nd mafia lel.
I have ZERO idea about anything World of Light related so bear with me. Why did you think that light would be town? Is ten hours into the game not far enough to establish that light would be an antagonistic force?
MrL: five posts and none in the last 90-odd hours, terrific. I don't like policy lynching but maybe lynching this nerd would give him a good wake-up call.
Maribro: gee I wonder what I think about Maribro?
Blaze: why was there a five-day gap between his posts yesterday and his previous posts?
Aerodrome said:I thought something similar early in the game; I wasn't sure if it was because he might have drawn anti-town or if it was because of asa's roasting after the previous game.
Why is Blaze so inactive? He did nothing but spam posts in previous games when he was town. MAFIA??
Blaze also snapped back pretty feistily to this which I thought was somewhat out-of-character?
Blaze said:
Smh aero, trying to pick on an easy target? I barely made a contribution last game, and i think i did well in the ult game.
JonCheee: I prodded him early in the game and he gave an acceptable answer (there's no proof that he wasn't lying but I can't reasonably say that he WAS lying and his answer seemed realistic enough).
I think Ghost's line of thought was interesting and worth pushing further but Ghost didn't say anymore and Jon either chose to not respond to it or hasn't checked the thread since then since he hasn't posted since Sunday.
Bijou: I think he said something dumb... no that's impolite of me. Uninformed? And brought up his "super low key play" as an attempt to save face - I struggle to piece together with any confidence that he'd be mafia at this stage but maybe the legendary Part II will convince me otherwise.
Laggy: he's being useless and not helping which is the same as he was when he was town in Ultimate. I can't read him. Just wish he would say WHO he thinks is most likely to be mafia and WHY.
Lachlan: apart from that one dumb statement I think he's been fine so far.
My preferences: Maribro > either Longshot or Blaze (probably in that order) (or Hydro depending on the answer to my question) > MrL > anyone else
Hometime now.
03/26/2019 06:00:41
dean said:
Longshot: interesting that he seemed to say "its such a high mafia game." with a degree of confidence. I don't know he seemed very nervous when he put JEANS on L-3? Is there such a fine line between L-3 and L-4 that L-3 is "lynch range" and L-4 is not?
imho its either 3 or 2 people per team which is still quite a bit especially how they will be wanting to vote others off to sway the advantage in their favour. My hypoth of 3 is better than people thinking its 4 and L-3 will put them in a range if that one maf team hasn't voted for him yet they can instantly send him on his way. I had already suspected that some mafia had already voted to create that bandwagon, I did want some answers from him but I never wanted to lynch him.
I'm mostly following my hypothesis of 3 each in my own decision making so yee.
03/26/2019 06:22:54
I think it's pretty known that hammering without notice is basically suicide lmao
03/26/2019 06:30:36
03/26/2019 06:30:36
Good to see maribro playing like usual again, perhaps he was hoping to fly under the radar this game but has been forced to play his usual way.
I’m casting my vote on asa since he’s the most suspicious so far, also if you believe he’s covering up his claim with being a meme then yes he is mafia.
Maribro would be my #2 rn but we’ll have to wait and see
03/26/2019 06:54:25
I’m casting my vote on asa since he’s the most suspicious so far, also if you believe he’s covering up his claim with being a meme then yes he is mafia.
Maribro would be my #2 rn but we’ll have to wait and see
03/26/2019 06:54:25
@MrL
You're a mong.
03/26/2019 07:16:37
You're a mong.
03/26/2019 07:16:37
BattleDolphin said:
I think it's pretty known that hammering without notice is basically suicide lmao
That never stopped Exist.
MrL said:
perhaps he was hoping to fly under the radar this game
Oh look the pot is calling the kettle black, cute.
03/26/2019 07:23:59
asa said:My reasoning for throwing out a claim was to:
1) generate discussion
Well it certainly achieved that. lol.
asa said:that's a horrible reasoning.
Oh yeah, I definitely agree that it's horrible reasoning. You have to appreciate the honesty though.
asa said:I certainly do. In fact, my vote is currently on one now.
I'm more inclined to want to go the Mr L route rather than JEANS. Longshot posted something like "aero hasn't voted for MrL and I find that suspicious" and I actually kind of agree with that lol. If MrL flips mafia there would be interesting implications of that, if we can't arrive at a consensus on anyone else I think he's worth checking.
03/26/2019 07:39:33
vote: asa
03/26/2019 07:43:17
03/26/2019 07:43:17
Aerodrome said:
BattleDolphin said:
I think it's pretty known that hammering without notice is basically suicide lmao
That never stopped Exist.
Hey guys, make sure you be careful putting your votes because there might be a hammerer this game by the way*
*disclaimer: this is a joke referencing "the man the myth the legend" insertname's amazing play from the SSBU game and in no way is suggesting that I know of the existence of a hammerer in this game. if for whatever reason there actually IS a hammerer this game then making myself look suspicious for saying this was still worth it in order to make this joke.
dean said:
JEANS: I'd like an answer to the question I posed previously.
Or I guess, anyone that's played World of Light can help me out?
I'll post it again here:
JEANS said:
but nah Im gonna get around to beating it oneday im like 10 hours in or somemshit er last guy I beat was Galleom so I really have no idea what a dharkon is. I dont even know galeem is tbh and at the very start I thought light was town and not a 2nd mafia lel.
I have ZERO idea about anything World of Light related so bear with me. Why did you think that light would be town? Is ten hours into the game not far enough to establish that light would be an antagonistic force?
Having not played World of Light either I would imagine a lay-person would see Light and Dark and assume that light is good and dark is bad.
Hey though, actual question on this. When I was given my role as a spirit I was initially confused what this role was because I also thought Light was going to be a town thing, but then reading Invisi's setup it said something like "Spirits (town) light faction (mafia) and dark faction (also mafia)" and then it made sense to me.
Given that JEANS thought light was the town faction do any of you read this as making him probably a member of the dark faction for him to make this incorrect assumption? Maybe I'm overthinking that.
03/26/2019 07:57:12
JEANS has been on my radar from day 1. I don't know how much of this is just simply due to frustration out of his fixation on me.
He's made 13 posts in the game so far, which is a small enough number that I can just go over them all now
Post 1 - RVS vote on me
Post 2-5 Modkill/claim discussion
Post 6-7 Wtf is a dharkon
Post 8.
At this point in the thread, there was some setup discussion going around.
However, at no point had JEANS mentioned the setup, nor were there any questions regarding setup balance or anything linking dharkon to setup numbers at all directed at him.
Post 9 - Modkill again, oh yeah cos I voted him
Post 10
I think it's reasonable to assume that dharkon is not just lore and is essentially outing a role/mafia team mate.
Downplaying this fact looks fishy to me too
You're both pretending not to know something you do know about, seems similar enough to me.
But the 180 on his stance now he's under pressure for it is laughable
Not too sure what the language here indicates, but feels dodgy to me.
Why ghost specifically for being the 4th? why not any of the first 3?
Post 11 - Jeans responding to questioning
Do you see why I was originally going for you bijou, Ive realised I was getting far too ahead of myself here. One step at a time.
Flip jeans and see what information is revealed. EDIT - fuck formatting
03/26/2019 08:30:02
He's made 13 posts in the game so far, which is a small enough number that I can just go over them all now
Post 1 - RVS vote on me
Post 2-5 Modkill/claim discussion
Post 6-7 Wtf is a dharkon
Post 8.
also what would I even gain from a showcalled tactic?wifom? regardless, there's clearly -something- to be gained.
that I dont know how many mafia each would cause Im saying i dont know the lore.?This sticks out to me though.
I dont know about mafia balance or whatever anyway look through mafia chat last game im constantly complaining it wasnt balanced even though im preetttty sure it was and we just got err unlucky as shit (it did seemed fuckeddd tho, only was close cause exist and the others throwing hard)
At this point in the thread, there was some setup discussion going around.
However, at no point had JEANS mentioned the setup, nor were there any questions regarding setup balance or anything linking dharkon to setup numbers at all directed at him.
Post 9 - Modkill again, oh yeah cos I voted him
Post 10
JEANS said:Bijou already called him out for this.
pretending to not know a role/potential mafia teammate is different from not knowing lore that im pretty sure invisi already said is just for flavour anyway and doesnt even mean anything.
I think it's reasonable to assume that dharkon is not just lore and is essentially outing a role/mafia team mate.
Downplaying this fact looks fishy to me too
also again id gain nothing or very little from pretending to not know that anyway, atyeo had a lot to gain from pretending to not know certain things.What did atyeo stand to gain from that situation that you don't?
You're both pretending not to know something you do know about, seems similar enough to me.
And if I called out him wouldnt that make me um aware of that play then and i wouldnt make that mistake or be so obvious making it like the only thing i postedpwifom. hmm....
i dont actually want asa modkilled incase that isnt obvious though im pretty sure i made it very much sodidn't seem like it was the case at all, considering his last post was another call for a modkill.
ill slow down on that train i guess as the shitposting phase is over (though I still think he's one of the most sus players rn)
But the 180 on his stance now he's under pressure for it is laughable
tbh I kinda wanna start a train on GHOST.I'm going to read into this too much. He's definitely trying to shift focus off himself, but why did he say "kinda wanna start a train"?
Not too sure what the language here indicates, but feels dodgy to me.
thridly everything else besides that has just been along of lines of "there's probably x mafia" which going after what bijou said apparently is used to bait mafia into revealing that and lol ghost was like the 4th one to talk about the topic when it wasnt really needed so yeah seems about right@JEANS what makes you believe that bijou said what he said to bait mafia?
Why ghost specifically for being the 4th? why not any of the first 3?
Post 11 - Jeans responding to questioning
...asa said:i think he's townnnnnn cause he's being nice to me.
What are your thoughts on bijou?
:)
being nice to someone with 5(6) votes on them is not a scum play. Also since it's a double mafia game me the mafia would be even less likely defending of people.
As a mafia, personally, I appear town through agreeing with town, defending town people can do this and I did it a bunch last game as mafia. but in a double mafia setup, you dont know the person you're defending is town or not.. then by chance they're in the other mafia you look like a mafia. So yeah, since I know im town, and bijou is the only one defending me, Im very confident he's town.
Bijou said:In my eyes, he's clearly part of A faction.
Given that JEANS thought light was the town faction do any of you read this as making him probably a member of the dark faction for him to make this incorrect assumption? Maybe I'm overthinking that.
Do you see why I was originally going for you bijou, Ive realised I was getting far too ahead of myself here. One step at a time.
Flip jeans and see what information is revealed. EDIT - fuck formatting
03/26/2019 08:30:02