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Super Smash Bros Ultimate Themed Mafia | Games Over! Town Wins!

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  3. Super Smash Bros Ultimate Themed Mafia | Games Over! Town Wins!
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/banjo-kazooietooie-mafia-its-a-draw.1390/1
https://ausmash.com.au/forum/thread/ultra-sunultra-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.2399/6#post93315
https://ausmash.com.au/forum/thread/ausmash-forum-mafia-the-revival.2404/1
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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY PARAPHRASE your abilities, copy-paste from role PM is not allowed
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be.
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread. If a dead player had a role that let them communicate privately, they are to cease doing that.
9. Character claiming is allowed.

We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Deaths only show a players alignment and character.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.

Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 72 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond. (Usually mod kill after 3 warnings)

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Smash Ultimates been out for a month now, so it's about time to have a game themed around it!

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Survivors (8): DD, Blaze, JEANS, Invisi, Bijou, JonCheee, Exist, Windkeeper0

Dead Players (13):
Night 0: Deez - Town-Alligned Lucario (Flavour Kill)
Day 1: Duon - Neutral Incineroar (Mod Killed)
Night 1: Extra - Town-Aligned Rosalina (Burnt)
Night 1: Maribro - Town-Aligned Pokemon Trainer (Shot)
Day 2: Glace - Town-Aligned Wii Fit Trainer (Mod Killed)
Day 2: Insie - Mafia Dark Pit (Lynched)
Night 2: MrL (Night Killed)
Day 3: Asa - Mafia Game & Watch (Lynched)
Night 3: Aerodrome - Town-Aligned Isabelle (Shot)
Night 3: Dean - Mafia Piranha Plant (Burnt)
Day 4: Atyeo - Mafia King K.Rool (Lynched)
Night 4: ThatLaggyPerson - Town Aligned Palutena (Burnt)
Day 5: Boozer - Neutral Bowser Jr. (Lynched)
Day 6: Voltz - Neutral Bowser (Lynched)

Player Changes
Day 1: Asa replaces Varous

Mod List:
Battledolphin
Rhyno
Rhyno 02/16/2019 03:57:37
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BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Fair enough, so all I need to do is keep my vote on him? Was planning on doing that anyway.
02/04/2019 02:15:11
Windkeeper0New South WalesLucina
1+ tourneys
Wii U: Windkeeper0
I'm down for dean's trial and error method, I doubt that the hammerer is a double voter as well but I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. It will just take a bit of co-ordination but 2 weeks should be plenty of time to do it.
02/04/2019 02:24:52
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Tl;dr for those who cbf reading:


Atyeo, Blaze, Glace, ThatLaggyPerson, JEANS, Asa, Mr L, Insie need to get on the vote train. Doing this we can weed out the Hammerer by smartly swapping votes on and off.
02/04/2019 02:53:50
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
@dean, someone has to go first, besides, and im happy to do so, if insie gets hammered on my nonvote we can replicate the process the next day to prove im not hammerer, right?
02/04/2019 03:08:25
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Just vote please.
02/04/2019 03:09:11
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
I trust your judgement, lets just hope i dont get fucked over lmao
Aero im first up i dont vote grrrr
02/04/2019 03:09:50
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Not voting because trolling or not voting because mafia? Can't be sure.
If you're that interested in being lynched keep doing what you're doing.
02/04/2019 03:13:34
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
No im the first person to test for hammerer
02/04/2019 03:13:55
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
It doesn't matter who's first, just get on the train.
02/04/2019 03:15:00
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
Fine
Vote Insie
02/04/2019 03:15:31
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Fuckin' lol'd.

The order of the votes doesn't matter, just all the people who didn't vote before need to vote now so we can work out who the hammerer is.
02/04/2019 03:30:51
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
LOL My bad
02/04/2019 03:35:24
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Question: what if the hammerer actually gets to choose when they hammer and this is some 200 IQ plan to frame a townie?

Just because Insie says it's passive doesn't mean we should believe him.
Mind you if they actually managed to setup a play like that they probably deserve to win but whatever lol
02/04/2019 03:42:48
ThatLaggyPersonNew South WalesIsabelle
6+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7156-6180-5821
Wii U: ThatLaggyPerson
VOTE: Insie
02/04/2019 04:54:39
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Bijou said:
Question: what if the hammerer actually gets to choose when they hammer and this is some 200 IQ plan to frame a townie?

Just because Insie says it's passive doesn't mean we should believe him.
Mind you if they actually managed to setup a play like that they probably deserve to win but whatever lol
Well IF it's the type of hammerer that needs to PM the mods to hammer (which I doubt; BattleDolphin's post was almost immediately after Maribro's so there wouldn't have been much time to get a PM in) and IF mafia decided that revealing another one of their powers and saccing Insie day 1 was a smart decision just to get us to mislynch once then good on them. Doesn't sound like a winning strategy to me but whatever.
02/04/2019 07:18:25
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
vote:insie

aslong as I dont have to do any of the work my head hurts you guys figure out the unvote revote shit
02/04/2019 07:22:21
CrimsonQueenslandWolf
149+ tourneys
Switch: SW-0417-9098-0412
3DS: 1865-1384-3421
I'm down for the plan and am currently aboard the train.
02/04/2019 08:29:26
JonCheeeWestern AustraliaShulk
49+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5112-5382-9630
Wii U: JonCheee
3DS: 1220-6465-9143
oh right sorry i shall follow through

unvote
02/04/2019 09:27:52
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
By the way there is 10 of us that didn't vote to lynch Insie yesterday and we'd only need 9 votes to lynch him assuming the hammer works again so we need to set this up so that only 8 of us are going at a time right?
02/04/2019 09:48:20
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
All of this is great, assuming Insie cooperates, but I'm still a bit confused.

Can someone please explain to me:
1. Is there any possible outcome of this process that would result in us not lynching Insie today?
2. What information do we gain from this voting-unvoting process that we do not gain from Insie's death reveal?

From where I'm at now, I understand the answer to question 1 to be no. As for question 2, if Insie flips town, we don't gain any new information because a town reveal simply confirms everything he's said up to this point. And I'm still a bit confused as to what information is gained if he flips mafia.

If he's the hammerer, then we don't get anything. If he's not then... we identify the hammerer. And lynch them tomorrow. Got it, just answered my own question.

I think I'm going to post this anyway though because I took a few minutes to think and type it up and maybe it'll explain what's going on to everyone else.
02/04/2019 11:15:54
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Invisi said:
All of this is great, assuming Insie cooperates, but I'm still a bit confused.

Can someone please explain to me:
1. Is there any possible outcome of this process that would result in us not lynching Insie today?
2. What information do we gain from this voting-unvoting process that we do not gain from Insie's death reveal?

From where I'm at now, I understand the answer to question 1 to be no. As for question 2, if Insie flips town, we don't gain any new information because a town reveal simply confirms everything he's said up to this point. And I'm still a bit confused as to what information is gained if he flips mafia.

If he's the hammerer, then we don't get anything. If he's not then... we identify the hammerer. And lynch them tomorrow. Got it, just answered my own question.

I think I'm going to post this anyway though because I took a few minutes to think and type it up and maybe it'll explain what's going on to everyone else.



02/04/2019 11:21:02
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
Wait a second, that means Insie doesn't actually have any reason to cooperate with us. Because if he's town, then the town don't get any more info from his cooperation. And if he's mafia (which I think is pretty much confirmed at this point), then his team stands to lose from his cooperation.

So... is there a workaround we can use that doesn't require his cooperation? Or is he able to screw over our plans?
02/04/2019 11:33:24
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Nah, Insie doesn't actually NEED to cooperate.
If the nine non-Insie potential hammerers all vote for Insie to put him on L-1 and then Insie gets hammered, then we can be somewhat confident that Insie was the hammerer.
It doesn't really matter WHICH nine of the ten potential hammerers jump on the wagon, as long as we get nine on there at some stage.

If he doesn't get hammered, then that means one of the nine on the wagon is the hammerer and we start swapping out votes.

So we're still waiting on cooperation from DD and four of these five players: Atyeo, Glace, asa, MrL, Insie.
02/04/2019 11:51:29
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
@dean Wouldnt that be a better way to do it? then thered be no risk of insie being a double voter?
02/04/2019 12:00:16
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
hmm

vote: insie
02/04/2019 12:27:19
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